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Old 10-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #1
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Default Why did Jame Toney Vs Eubank/Benn not happen?

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Old 10-07-2012, 08:59 AM   #2
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Toney began calling those guys out after he beat barkley. He got no repsonse so he called them out on national tv. Kallen (Toney's manager) waited for them to get back to them but they never did.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:01 AM   #3
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Jones, Toney and Hopkins wanted no part of Benn after seeing what happened to Gerald Mclellan, who they all feared

Also, Toney is a thick ****
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Jones, Toney and Hopkins wanted no part of Benn after seeing what happened to Gerald Mclellan, who they all feared
What are you talking about?

Benn started to call out Benn after he beat Barkley and its clear from the Ross show that Benn knew who he was. You will notice that neither Benn or Eubank want to repond to his taunts because that would be the equivalent of accepting Toney's challenge.


Toney used to spar with McClellan and handled him easily. He would of beat Benn and McClellan in a fight

Hopkins?

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Benn started to call out Benn after he beat Barkley and its clear from the Ross show that Benn knew who he was. You will notice that neither Benn or Eubank want to repond to his taunts because that would be the equivalent of accepting Toney's challenge.

they do not respond to his taunts cause they are not massive smack talkers like JT.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:17 AM   #6
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What are you talking about?

Benn started to call out Benn after he beat Barkley and its clear from the Ross show that Benn knew who he was. You will notice that neither Benn or Eubank want to repond to his taunts because that would be the equivalent of accepting Toney's challenge.


Toney used to spar with McClellan and handled him easily. He would of beat Benn and McClellan in a fight

Hopkins?
They did not respond to his taunts because they were preparing to fight each other, you utter fool

Toney's best weapon always was his mouth the punch drunk, stupid fat fool
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they do not respond to his taunts cause they are not massive smack talkers like JT.
Eubank wanted nothing to do with toney, even admitted it himself
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Harsh. I got the impression Eubank never forgave Toney for telling him via satellite that he'd beat his 'Momma's ass'!

Eubank explains that the fight wouldn't have generated enough money for the potential long-term damage it could've inflicted on either or both men!

"Yes, from late 1992 to early 1994, Chris Eubank-James Toney was the match that escaped. I do understand that it would've been great for the spectators, the best against the best, but Toney had so much burning desire in his solar plexus even as champion that I knew he probably wouldn't give up and knew he'd throw nothing but a catalog of combinations. It had 'Watson II' written all over it. I already had that fight. Toney hadn't had that fight and he wanted it.

"But believe me, I'm delighted to this day that the fight never materialized with Toney. I've got all my faculties in tact. I'm physically fit and mentally healthy, and I speak clearly. It would've been personal after all, because he insulted my mother.
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They did not respond to his taunts because they were preparing to fight each other, you utter fool
Coming from a guy who thinks Hopkins was scared of Benn? Hopkins hadnt even won a mw title at that point

Toney was calling then out after he beat Barkley back in 93. Neither of them respsonded, which is the reason why he then did it so publicy and still got no response. Eubank didnt fight top American fighters, which is why he made a point of missing ALL of them. I wonder who grabbed his wbo mw belt after he vacated it?
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:32 AM   #9
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Lets be honest here and look at the level of competition Toney fought after winning the title off Barkley at 168

- govoner chavers 9-3-1

- ricky thomas 11-9-1

- glen thomas 24-1-0

- danny garcia 25-9-0

- larry prather 10-10-0

- tony thornton 35-5-1

- anthony hembrick 27-4-1

- tim littles 24-0-0

- vinson durham 11-6-1

- charles williams 36-5-2




Does this really look like a fighter who wanted to fight Nigel Benn?

Could you imagine what ESB would say today if Andre Wards next 10 fights were against opponents of this calibre?
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Is it true that you wanted nothing to do with the Michael Nunn & James Toney?

“That’s interesting, because I signed to fight both Nunn and James Toney. As part of the contract with Don King for Nunn, where I was the first fighter to get one over on him when me and Nigel drew. And as part of the contract with SKY for James Toney, where I was the first fighter to sign for a TV company direct, but he lost to Roy Jones.”

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What are you talking about?

Benn started to call out Benn after he beat Barkley and its clear from the Ross show that Benn knew who he was. You will notice that neither Benn or Eubank want to repond to his taunts because that would be the equivalent of accepting Toney's challenge.


Toney used to spar with McClellan and handled him easily. He would of beat Benn and McClellan in a fight

Hopkins?
I saw the footage of McClellan and Toney sparring and McClellan got the best of it. Just.
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Lets be honest here and look at the level of competition Toney fought after winning the title off Barkley at 168

- govoner chavers 9-3-1

- ricky thomas 11-9-1

- glen thomas 24-1-0

- danny garcia 25-9-0

- larry prather 10-10-0

- tony thornton 35-5-1

- anthony hembrick 27-4-1

- tim littles 24-0-0

- vinson durham 11-6-1

- charles williams 36-5-2




Does this really look like a fighter who wanted to fight Nigel Benn?
What on earth are you going on about?

Only the fights I highlighted were smw fights the rest were keep busy fights against nobodies. He fought Mccallum x 2, R.Johnson and Michael Nunn but now his scared off Benn, because he fought a lot of keep busy fights.
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What on earth are you going on about?

Only the fights I highlighted were smw fights the rest were keep busy fights against nobodies. He fought Mccallum x 2, R.Johnson and Michael Nunn but now his scared off Benn, because he fought a lot of keep busy fights.

No disrespect but the facts don't lie. the opponents i listed above are all the fighters james toney fought during his title reign at 168 from when he won it off barkley to when he lost it to jones. They are the facts and no amount of crying about it changes that. A world champion fighting that calibre off opponent is nothing but an absolute bloody disgrace to the sport of boxing. Andre Ward would be crucified for doing that.
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And when did he do that exactly? After he pulled out of the King deal?
After he entered into that deal with Sky and only fought nobodies?

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American Michael Nunn was the closest to Graham but 6-feet-and-3-inches tall, so the move I had with the left hook wouldn't have reached. So I would opt not to fight Nunn.
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I only take fight I know I can win
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No disrespect but the facts don't lie. the opponents i listed above are all the fighters james toney fought during his title reign at 168 from when he won it off barkley to when he lost it to jones. They are the facts and no amount of crying about it changes that. A world champion fighting that calibre off opponent is nothing but an absolute bloody disgrace to the sport of boxing. Andre Ward would be crucified for doing that.
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Is that the reason why the fights I never highlighted all took place at lhw-cw?
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