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Old 10-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #31
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@ EuBUM and hasBENN waiting til the host says we're almost out of time to start talking back. Such blatant ducking of THE Super Middleweight Champ James "Lights Out" Toney
There wasn`t any ducking pal,Benn or Eubank would`ve got in the ring with that gobshite no prob,esp Nigel Benn would`ve.I reckon Toney looked a right dick with his arms folded swinging about in that vid
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:54 AM   #32
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There wasn`t any ducking pal,Ben or Eubank would`ve got in the ring with that gobshite no prob,esp Nigel Benn.
The fight was there to get made, but those two were not interested. It is what it is.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:00 AM   #33
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The fight was there to get made, but those two were not interested. It is what it is.
Says you.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #34
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There wasn`t any ducking pal,Benn or Eubank would`ve got in the ring with that gobshite no prob,esp Nigel Benn would`ve.I reckon Toney looked a right dick with his arms folded swinging about in that vid
Did you see how they clammed up when THE SMW CHAMP started calling them out? They wanted no part of that ass whipping. They ducked "Lights Out"
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:05 AM   #35
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Says you.
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Eubank explains that the fight wouldn't have generated enough money for the potential long-term damage it could've inflicted on either or both men!

"Yes, from late 1992 to early 1994, Chris Eubank-James Toney was the match that escaped. I do understand that it would've been great for the spectators, the best against the best, but Toney had so much burning desire in his solar plexus even as champion that I knew he probably wouldn't give up and knew he'd throw nothing but a catalog of combinations. It had 'Watson II' written all over it. I already had that fight. Toney hadn't had that fight and he wanted it.
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Eubank never faced one top American fighter through out his career. It is what it is.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:06 AM   #36
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EuBUM scared for his health if he fought "Lights Out"
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:21 PM   #37
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Id question how much all three fighters really wanted it...
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:33 PM   #38
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I would place Watson around champion level with the likes of Woods, Graciano and Glen Johnson.

Never really been sold on Collins. He basically came along at the right time. Eubank had no business losing to that guy twice.

Eubank slipped a level himself when he moved up to smw and became a lazy fighter

Terrible match up for Benn. That fight has Toney-Barkley 2.0 written on it. I agree that Benn gets stopped late


Toney was a step above anyone the Eubank had ever faced. He was the better counterpuncher and he was better at fighting off the front foot than Eubank, who tended to look awkward and off balance at times.
Watson was on a different universe to Clinton Woods or Glen Johnson. He looked special at his best. Woods and Glencoffe were ordinary.
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:19 PM   #39
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EuBUM scared for his health if he fought "Lights Out"
Dont see why he shouldn't be worried about his or Toney's health, given that he had been involved in a fight that perminantly paralysed Michael Watson. In fact both Benn and Eubank had been in fights which had destroyed their opponents health, and that must be a terrible mental burden for anybody to bear.
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Old 10-08-2012, 12:10 PM   #40
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Watson was on a different universe to Clinton Woods or Glen Johnson. He looked special at his best. Woods and Glencoffe were ordinary.
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Jones(ATG)
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Johnson should of also got the win against Dawson

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What did Watson do that would place him above Johnson?
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Old 10-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #41
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Show better skills.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:49 PM   #42
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I saw the footage of McClellan and Toney sparring and McClellan got the best of it. Just.
No he didnt.James got the best of it and if it was a real fight mcclellan would get knocked the **** out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:11 PM   #43
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Show better skills.
I don't think so. Glen was just as skilled as Watson. Even a crude brawler like Collins was a better fighter than Watson, which is why he did much better against common opponents.
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:12 PM   #44
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No he didnt.James got the best of it and if it was a real fight mcclellan would get knocked the **** out.
I agree
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:40 PM   #45
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Toney gman sparring fast forward to 58:30 for anybody who never seen it

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lHe_UqZF0I[/ame]
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