Defensive specialists with top end power

janitor · 10-07-2012, 05:21 PM

They are rare, but they exist.

A fighter with power, will typically be developed as an offensive fighter.

I have sometimes speculated that Jack Johnson and Joe Walcott, might have been sluggers if they had come along today!

Who are the examples?

McGrain · 10-07-2012, 05:27 PM

Burley could hit. Well enough to hurt just about anyone he took to the ring with.

Jones was as hard to find as Whitaker but could end things with one punch.

Archie Moore?

Napoles. Espparragozza. How about Joe Gans and Tommy Ryan?

McGrain · 10-07-2012, 05:28 PM

Wladimir Klitschko!

The best answer.

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:33 PM

Samart Payakaroon. Perfectly encapsulated in this 18 second clip from the 12th and final round of his title defence against the dangerous puncher 'Kid' Meza that you all have time to watch.

[ame]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4RYXoctN0[/ame]

janitor · 10-07-2012, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

Burley could hit. Well enough to hurt just about anyone he took to the ring with.

Jones was as hard to find as Whitaker but could end things with one punch.

Archie Moore?

Napoles. Espparragozza. How about Joe Gans and Tommy Ryan?

All good calls.

What these fighters have in common, is that they became defensive specialists due to career circumstances.

McGrain · 10-07-2012, 05:34 PM

That was astonishing. But Menza looked awful.

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

All good calls.

What these fighters have in common, is that they became defensive specialists due to career circumstances.

Mine however did not. He was a gifted defensive savant. And offensive monster. And a brilliant singer.

McGrain · 10-07-2012, 05:39 PM

Anyone think Harry Wills might qualify here?

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McGrain

That was astonishing. But Menza looked awful.

He'd already been dropped three times.

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

Anyone think Harry Wills might qualify here?

You give him the nod over Johnson on either attribute?

McGrain · 10-07-2012, 05:46 PM

I think he might have more power, yeah. He caved Fulton's ribs the **** in, and has quite a few one punch KO's. But it's very hard to be sure obviously.

doug.ie · 10-07-2012, 05:48 PM

floyd too obvious?...he's got good power

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:56 PM

Well I wouldn't say he's a banger but then again he was an offensive force at 130 and has scored stoppages where he's dropped the opponent all the way to 147 so I'd say he's as good a shout as any

Question is would Pascual Perez qualify?

SuzieQ49 · 10-07-2012, 05:57 PM

Archie Moore?

Flea Man · 10-07-2012, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

I think he might have more power, yeah. He caved Fulton's ribs the **** in, and has quite a few one punch KO's. But it's very hard to be sure obviously.

This is fair.

Are we saying you have to be brilliant defensively and take the defensive approach? Because Tyson at his very best would qualify if not.

10-07-2012, 05:21 PM	#1
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34,759 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Burley could hit. Well enough to hurt just about anyone he took to the ring with. Jones was as hard to find as Whitaker but could end things with one punch. Archie Moore? Napoles. Espparragozza. How about Joe Gans and Tommy Ryan?
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10-07-2012, 05:28 PM	#3
McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34,759 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Wladimir Klitschko! The best answer.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 39,822 vCash: 75	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Samart Payakaroon. Perfectly encapsulated in this 18 second clip from the 12th and final round of his title defence against the dangerous puncher 'Kid' Meza that *you all have time to watch.* [ame]***********.youtube.com/watch?v=8U4RYXoctN0[/ame]
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34,759 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power That was astonishing. But Menza looked awful.
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34,759 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Anyone think Harry Wills might qualify here?
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McGrain Diamond Dog East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 34,759 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power I think he might have more power, yeah. He caved Fulton's ribs the **** in, and has quite a few one punch KO's. But it's very hard to be sure obviously.
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 39,822 vCash: 75	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Well I wouldn't say he's a banger but then again he was an offensive force at 130 and has scored stoppages where he's dropped the opponent all the way to 147 so I'd say he's as good a shout as any Question is would Pascual Perez qualify?
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SuzieQ49 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 12,870 vCash: 1000	Re: Defensive specialists with top end power Archie Moore?
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