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Old 10-07-2012, 09:23 PM   #31
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How many times you have lost is irrelevant. It is all about who you have beaten.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:26 PM   #32
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A bit of both. You have to actually look at the resume in order to determine if it is impressive or overrated.

Don't even bring the mma bullshit in this thread. Those guys have some of the shittiest records ever.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:35 PM   #33
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Incredibly overrated. Ottke and Lopez(well much more proven than him) lack names. Rather go out like a Holy or DLH with a loaded resume than be scared to test myself anyday. Look at Ali. His resume is so damn deep that along with his wins and performances he has a case to be GOAT.

As far as Marciano, he cleaned his era so I think he needs to be cut a little slack.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #34
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It all depends on the resume.

If you face top comp, goin unbeaten is great. If you ain't fought nobody, your unbeaten record means jack shit.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:59 PM   #35
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They are definitely overrated....but they do make duche bags twice as funnyLOL

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Anyone know if Guerrero ever did send a contract....
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:08 PM   #36
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I'd rather be Broner than Demarcus Corley or Emanuel Augustus
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:11 PM   #37
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Incredibly overrated. Ottke and Lopez(well much more proven than him) lack names. Rather go out like a Holy or DLH with a loaded resume than be scared to test myself anyday. Look at Ali. His resume is so damn deep that along with his wins and performances he has a case to be GOAT.

As far as Marciano, he cleaned his era so I think he needs to be cut a little slack.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:43 AM   #38
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An undefeated record in boxing is undoubtedly impressive ... but it can also be misleading.*Rocky Marciano*and*Joe Calzaghe*are two of the few modern fighters who retired having won every single fight of their professional career. Both are Hall of Famers with wins over Hall of Fame caliber fighters on their resumes ... but both Marciano and Calzaghe scored their biggest wins against stars who were well past their primes.
If the person has a record or fights against good fighters in their prime sure its great but virtually every undefeated fighter is just a guy dodging top competitors, be it mayweather (who has about 5-8 more fighters to beat including pac, martinez, canelo, bailey, etc.

To me sugar ray leonard is about 100 times better than mayweather for the obvious reason he didn't spend his whole career dodging the best. Leonad, duran, hagler, hearns, will always be the best welterweights since post 70's and pac might make the cut. Am I suppose to be impressed by fighters who beat up old guys and tomatoes?
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:17 AM   #39
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undefeated usually means good hand picking. It all depends on quality of opposition.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:26 AM   #40
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undefeated usually means good hand picking. It all depends on quality of opposition.


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Old 10-08-2012, 01:27 AM   #41
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a little bit of both.

Of course its impressive, you never lost. whats not impressive about that.

But in some cases it can be overrated. Because just because we have never seen Joe Calzaghe, Floyd Mayweather, or atgs like Marciano actually lose, doesn't mean they cant.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:31 AM   #42
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Unless you put absolutely ZERO stock in defeats or close/poor performance victories, being undefeated with a resume equal to one who took losses, being undefeated is obviously better than being defeated.

Opponents mean everything. Who they were and at what point in their careers. Sorry, but I don't think more of Roy Jones' resume or legacy for having fought Danny Green, which is the opinion most of the posters seem to hold in this thread.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:32 AM   #43
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Maybe the new gen of fans would know who he is, respect him more, and rate him higher all time if he had a couple random knockout defeats to some of his opponents rather than decisive victories.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:36 AM   #44
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Maybe the new gen of fans would know who he is, respect him more, and rate him higher all time if he had a couple random knockout defeats to some of his opponents rather than decisive victories.
I guess so his perfect record helps adds to his galore as a near perfect fighter imo to go along with his great technique. I guess there's nothing impressive about what he did and never having a slip up or a bad night along the way
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:42 AM   #45
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Sugar Ray Robinson lost 19 times Sven Ottke didn't lose any, ask your neighbour which one of those two boxers he has heard of. Overrated.
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