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Old 10-07-2012, 12:11 AM   #1
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Default which of these old school american kickboxers would have made the best boxer???

guys remember american kickboxing
with the pants and karate kicks above the waist

well in its time
it produced some really famous names
"world"champions

joe lewis
benny the jet
bill superfoot wallace
dennis alexio
rufas bothers
"The Monster Man" Everett Eddie
don the dragon wilson


there were more ofcourse

anyways if all turned to boxing
which would have done the best?


and just for fun
here is a match between joe lewis and bill wallace in
their 40's

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAEKbKHmo_Q[/ame]
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:42 AM   #2
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Bruce Lee could have been a good boxer.

Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris may have been good boxers. Lewis almost became a boxer.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:30 PM   #3
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yes lewis almost did actually

i think and him and benny were good with hands for sure,

chuck could have good too,
dennis alexio seemed very loose too
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:33 PM   #4
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IMO none of them, since if they wanted to do boxing they would have trained boxing....

It's not like someone put a gun on there head while they were training Kickboxing...
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:43 PM   #5
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actually all of them trained boxing
and a few competed in it too
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:54 PM   #6
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So if some did, and if some even competed in Boxing, why are you asking the question ?
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:00 PM   #7
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i am asking the question as a point of interest,

like which one had the most talent to be a boxer,

just like you can ask which boxer would be best suited for k1 etc,
or which wrestler would be best suited to adcc etc

its a question of interest,
how a guy from a related sport would do with proper training
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:11 PM   #8
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Yeah...

I guess I'm the problem here, I must be tired of all those thread asking how X fighter from K-1 or X fighter from MT or X fighter from MMA would have done if he had decided to limite is skillset with hand combat only....
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:36 PM   #9
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Yeah...

I guess I'm the problem here, I must be tired of all those thread asking how X fighter from K-1 or X fighter from MT or X fighter from MMA would have done if he had decided to limite is skillset with hand combat only....

your not the problem
but the thing is
american kickboxing had a 6 kick a round rule-no low kicks
because to be honest their kicks werent that great usually
so they relied on hands most of the time....

this is not like saying from muay thai, where
they spend a lot of time on knees and elbows and clinch too,
so its a bit of different question


and boxing is more then hand combat,
there is angles,footwork etc etc
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vXTpYqd2k[/ame]
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:00 AM   #11
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thanks
how could i forget to put him in

great fighter
had a draw with the don the dragon
in an amazing fight


very good for boxing or k1 if he improved low kicks etc
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:11 AM   #12
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You missed one of the best - Troy Dorsey. Won legit world titles in both sports back when it meant something.


[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Dorsey[/ame]
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:12 AM   #13
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Kickboxers switching over to boxing is nothing new. several amateur kickboxers have found great success in boxing. Most notably of course is Vitali Klitschko, then you also have guys like Marco Huck, Povetkin, and I think even Manual Charr had a kickboxing background.

I think plenty of current and past k-1 Heavys would make good or decent Kickboxers. Matt Skelton fought in k-1 and made his name there before switching over to boxing. Kyotaro is 5-0 and is rated as the 106 best HW by boxrec. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Jerome Le banner flirted with a boxing career on the side. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] going 6-0 5(KOs)

Of course Alexander Ustinov was a k-1 guy for many years before he switched over to pro-boxing.

In addition to those guys, Mighty Mo, Mark Hunt, Peter Graham and Ray Sefo have also fought in professional bouts a few times.

Badr Hari was planning to make the full time switch to boxing, he even moved to NY and would took the train to Philly so he could train with Naazim Richardson. Then he decided to stay in kickboxing, and then he started to get into serious trouble with the law again.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:27 AM   #14
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[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeIj74WWydY[/ame]

Had to add this. Awesome fight.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:08 PM   #15
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Kickboxers switching over to boxing is nothing new. several amateur kickboxers have found great success in boxing. Most notably of course is Vitali Klitschko, then you also have guys like Marco Huck, Povetkin, and I think even Manual Charr had a kickboxing background.

I think plenty of current and past k-1 Heavys would make good or decent Kickboxers. Matt Skelton fought in k-1 and made his name there before switching over to boxing. Kyotaro is 5-0 and is rated as the 106 best HW by boxrec. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Jerome Le banner flirted with a boxing career on the side. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] going 6-0 5(KOs)

Of course Alexander Ustinov was a k-1 guy for many years before he switched over to pro-boxing.

In addition to those guys, Mighty Mo, Mark Hunt, Peter Graham and Ray Sefo have also fought in professional bouts a few times.

Badr Hari was planning to make the full time switch to boxing, he even moved to NY and would took the train to Philly so he could train with Naazim Richardson. Then he decided to stay in kickboxing, and then he started to get into serious trouble with the law again.

i actually know all of this, but i was specifically talking about those guys from that style of kickboxing, not so much from k-1 style
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