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View Poll Results: The Cuban Hawk's 147 ATG Rating
No. 2 2 10.00%
No. 3 9 45.00%
No. 4 4 20.00%
No. 5 3 15.00%
Not Top 5, and I'll explain in detail. 2 10.00%
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:42 AM   #1
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Where does ESB Classic rate him all-time in the heavenly Welterweight Kingdom these days?
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Old 10-08-2012, 03:57 AM   #2
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No.2 or no.3 depending on how I'm feeling about Ray Leonard on any given day.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:14 AM   #3
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Would you rate him about the same in a H2H sense?

(I would).
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:22 AM   #4
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Yes!
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:56 AM   #5
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Yeah, 2 or 3 for me too.

Holds his own with pretty much anyone you care to name in the welterweight division.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:42 AM   #6
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Number three.
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:50 AM   #7
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ESB ranked him #5 in Rummy's poll:

1. 1049 Sugar Ray Robinson (41)
2. 524 Sugar Ray Leonard
3. 322 Henry Armstrong
4. 301 Jose Napoles
5. 275 Kid Gavilan

I personally had him at #4.

01 - Sugar Ray Robinson
02 - Sugar Ray Leonard
03 - Jack Britton
04 - Kid Gavilan
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:05 AM   #8
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Britton is the guy I could see pushing either Leonard or Gavilan out of the top 3.
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:15 AM   #9
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He finished 14th in that poll!
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Old 10-08-2012, 07:31 AM   #10
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Didn't Hasegawa make the top ten bantams?!?!

To be fair I never took my picks seriously back then. I would now!
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:09 AM   #11
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No.2 or no.3 depending on how I'm feeling about Ray Leonard on any given day.
Where the hell is El Feo?!
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where the hell is el feo?!
7-10.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:39 AM   #13
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7-10.


I completely trust Flea's opinion.

He said El Feo is the 2nd greatest welter of all time.

Here's his list in case you missed it, HoI:

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Top 5 ATG Welterweights:
1. Griffith
2. El Feo
3. Kell Brook
4. Hasegawa
5. Starling
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:43 AM   #14
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:54 AM   #15
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I believe he is at a size disadvantage against most conventionally acknowledged welterweights, but that is not to say his talent won't shine through regardless. He is well among the very best of the bunch, but his exact placing depends on whom you include in your list.
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