You know theres something serious wrong in our sport when Nathan Cleverley.....

[Shrewd Operator]

is a world champion,

Big wins include: Controversial win over Tony 'the bomber' Bellew and 'the' Karo Murat.

God Speak..

[ElCep]

Anyone who seriously considers Cleverly a world champion needs to have a word with themselves.

[Earl-hickey]

have a word son, have a word

[PityTheFool]

He should move to Indonesia or somewhere in the surrounding areas.
Out there they love guys that manage to grab belts then keep them over there by fighting bums.
And Nathan clearly needs some love.

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by PityTheFool

He should move to Indonesia or somewhere in the surrounding areas.
Out there they love guys that manage to grab belts then keep them over there by fighting bums.
And Nathan clearly needs some love.

Worse still is he believes his own hype and thinks he has the divine right to that belt..

[moneypaysbills]

Typical butthurt Americans

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by moneypaysbills

Typical butthurt Americans

I'm Irish, seen fighters give everything for a title shot, this lad gets it as an early christmas present because his opponent didnt show up..

[moneypaysbills]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

I'm Irish, seen fighters give everything for a title shot, this lad gets it as an early christmas present because his opponent didnt show up..

This is the problem with a five belt system. Fighters who are not deserving are gonna be able to pick up a belt even though they're not the best. In a one or three belt system with no ducking Cleverly probably wouldn't have a belt. But bitching about every fighter who grabs some worthless trinket is quite pointless and only done by hating Americans. Hence why it was perfectly reasonable to assume you were a butthurt American

[DrMo]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

I'm Irish, seen fighters give everything for a title shot, this lad gets it as an early christmas present because his opponent didnt show up..

Ive heard rumours that Braehmer (*spelling) was paid off. Alledgedly a certain promoter gave him step aside money to walk away from the fight & vacate his title.

Every belt Clev has ever won has been vacant, he's never beaten a reigning champion.

[dinovelvet]

Cleverly is being avoided and the top LHs are tied up, its not entirely his fault. Nobody is even calling him out, Bellew refused a rematch and B-hop want no part of him.

[moneypaysbills]

It's true that Cleverly has Bhop running scared. Bhop still remembers the last brit LHW he fought

[oldtimer]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Cleverly is being avoided and the top LHs are tied up, its not entirely his fault. Nobody is even calling him out, Bellew refused a rematch and B-hop want no part of him.

Rumour has it that unbeaten smw prospect and IBO champ Tommy Oosthuizen's camp tried hard to secure a shot at Cleverly's LHW title but were turned down flat.
If that's true then it seems strange that they would turn down a solid offer from a fairly reputable opponent.

[the commentator]

there are so many belts per division in boxing today which means, even though youre actually not the best in your division, there's chances aplenty of becoming a champion...