Question: is Ivan Calderon a HOF?

[Gandul]

He had a great run but some casual fans didn't appreciate his talents since he couldn't KO anyone... What do you think?

[Zopilote]

Something like 18 consecutive title defenses, 2 weight world champ, Straw and Light Fly of the past decade, and beat some of the top guys around his division at the time. One of he finest defensive fighters of this era, and great technician. He was past his best when he started losing.

I'd say he's HOF material.

[Atritionist]

A Master technician and defended his title numerous amounts of time. There is no doubt he's a HOF.

[Jacory Harris]

They don't allow quitters (aka knee takers) into the HOF.

[WildStyle]

If we're being completely objective, he avoided some guys. I'm not gonna devote any time to it though, because I'm too tired. He was a hell of a technician when he was in his prime though.

[Poonpuppy]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

Something like 18 consecutive title defenses, 2 weight world champ, Straw and Light Fly of the past decade, and beat some of the top guys around his division at the time. One of he finest defensive fighters of this era, and great technician. He was past his best when he started losing.

I'd say he's HOF material.

This.

[SugarShane_24]

If he's a HOFamers, guys like Sahaprom, Pong, and other long reigning titlist should be in too.

[McGrain]

Duh.

[MilesP]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

Something like 18 consecutive title defenses, 2 weight world champ, Straw and Light Fly of the past decade, and beat some of the top guys around his division at the time. One of he finest defensive fighters of this era, and great technician. He was past his best when he started losing.

I'd say he's HOF material.

I've only seen his recent fights. When would you say his prime was and what are some of his best fights?

[Vantage_West]

hard to say really, i can see why he would be but chances are he wont be. he can hold a title a long time but is that really noteworthy considering the wieght and competition. at least lopez cleared the division completely or at least beat any future world champion for the next 3 years and moved up. calderon was unbeaten for a very long time. thats is practically his claim to fame.



but i like his style, dominant while he had the championship, and his division will always be a hard sale.

i think he might.

[iceman71]

18 defense of a wbo title = never fighting the top 3 of his weight class ever,
watered down defenses. no unification wins, lot the only one he fought

typical ESB philosophy to let all boxers in the hall because he fought nearly a decade and beat guys he is supposed to and not fight the guys that pose risk

some of his defenses which gets people excited about and count as something

Jose Luis Varela 13-1-0
Carlos Fajardo 14-4-1
Jesus Iribe 16-6-5
Nelson Dieppa 24-4-2 (lost 4 of last 6)
Lorenzo Trejo 18-13-0
Roberto Leyva 23-3-1 (lost 3 out of last 5)
Alex Sanchez 29-3-1 (coming off loss)
Eduardo Marquez 18-5-1 (2 wins in last 6 fights)
Ronald Barrera 20-2-1

[Vantage_West]

**** it,
what happend with the viloria superfight, chocalatito, nko, contes, eagle kyowa, takayama.

if he mixed with that lot he would be in. didnt even have to beat half of them just fight them.

[iceman71]

Originally Posted by Vantage_West

**** it,
what happend with the viloria superfight, chocalatito, nko, contes, eagle kyowa, takayama.

if he mixed with that lot he would be in. didnt even have to beat half of them just fight them.

[Zopilote]

Originally Posted by MilesP

I've only seen his recent fights. When would you say his prime was and what are some of his best fights?

I'd say his Strawweight reign, and his early Light Flyweight reign...specially the fights against Hugo Cazarez.

[iceman71]

Originally Posted by Zopilote

I'd say his Strawweight reign, and his early Light Flyweight reign...specially the fights against Hugo Cazarez.

here is is early straweight "reign"

13 WBO title fights.... i fail to see anything HALL of FAME worth so far

2003
Eduardo Marquez 18-5-1 (2 wins in last 6 fights)
Lorenzo Trejo 18-13-0
Alex Sanchez 29-3-1 (coming off loss)

2004
Edgar Cardenas 30-11-2
Roberto Leyva 23-3-1 (lost 3 out of last 5)
Carlos Fajardo 14-4-1

2005
Noel Tunacao 40-7-2 (lost 2 out of 4) (1 by KO)
Gerardo Verde 13-1-0
Daniel Reyes 35-3-1 (lost 2 out of last 3)

2006
Isaac Bustos 24-7-3 (coming off a loss)
Miguel Tellez 18-5-0
Jose Luis Varela 13-1-0

2007
Ronald Barrera 20-2-1