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View Poll Results: What's the limit for Stefan Struve?
Potential champion 10 23.81%
Koscheck-like - top-level guy for years, loses his title shots 9 21.43%
Respectable gatekeeper for the division's elite 19 45.24%
Pretty much maxed out right now 4 9.52%
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:49 PM   #61
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This is actually a pretty amusing debate here fella's, keep it up, some good stuff, im glad im not locked into this war
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:16 PM   #62
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4oz gloves can have that effect.
I know the gloves can do that but still Browne just lost to Big foot who isnt your average can but still not really the cream of the crop either and he had a bull**** draw with Kongo before who is a top 10 gatekeeper.

Roy Nelsons best win was a shot to **** Crocop.
Sure he has power in that right hand but he throws it from a mile away and it not like he mixes it up either its always that overhand right.

But i always enjoy watching him fight win or lose
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:53 PM   #63
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I know the gloves can do that but still Browne just lost to Big foot who isnt your average can but still not really the cream of the crop either and he had a bull**** draw with Kongo before who is a top 10 gatekeeper.
Browne's loss to Bigfoot didn't really tell us much though. I mean for a start, Bigfoot is supposed to be a world-class guy. Second, Browne injured himself what? A minute into the fight? Before that, Bigfoot had landed nothing on him. After the injury, nobody can hate on Browne for losing while hopping around on one leg.

Also, Struve was a young fighter in that match. I mean, when Matt Hughes was older than Struve is, he was getting subbed for the second time by Dennis Hallman (he couldn't survive more than 20 seconds either time) and then returning to immediately get TKOed by Jose Landi-Jons. Bad losses, but they came before Hughes put everything together, and they didn't end up being reflective of his ability or potential.

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Roy Nelsons best win was a shot to **** Crocop.
Sure he has power in that right hand but he throws it from a mile away and it not like he mixes it up either its always that overhand right.
True enough, but Struve is improving. He has shown good signs of progress over his last couple of fights. His best night is still ahead of him, I think.

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But i always enjoy watching him fight win or lose
We can all easily agree on that. Well, maybe except for one of us.

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Old 10-09-2012, 12:28 AM   #64
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Sad thing to say, but if he started on the juice he would be a much better fighter. You can see by his frame he is a natural fighter.
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Old 03-03-2013, 01:50 PM   #65
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bumping this bad boy

so who still thinks he is potential champion????????

and i read back and saw killer instinct was a major talking factor on here in regards to the skys****er, well **** me stephan sure did show great killer instinct last night especially when he had an extremely tired hunt in front of him and when in the mount on at least 2 occasions

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Old 03-03-2013, 02:07 PM   #66
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Ceiling is the 5'11 Mark Hunt left hook !
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Old 03-03-2013, 02:52 PM   #67
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Stefan Struve is improving, and hasn't reached his physical prime yet.

Potential champ is top 5 contender in The UFC. I use to box and everyone is matched evenly once they break into The Top 10.
I didn't see the fight last night, and can't recall his previous win streak. But, I read that not using his height and reach advantage did him in as always. This was a major setback, and the 5th time he has been punched out. I see him falling to the wayside because he's not going to be the same after a broken jaw.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:37 PM   #68
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I didn't see the fight last night, and can't recall his previous win streak. But, I read that not using his height and reach advantage did him in as always. This was a major setback, and the 5th time he has been punched out. I see him falling to the wayside because he's not going to be the same after a broken jaw.
he done ok in the second rd using his jab and reach but he kept it too predictable and hunt then was timing slipping the jab, he wasnt throwing a jab feint and coming in with something else, did he brake his jaw last night
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:54 PM   #69
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Yes he did, and I don't think he will ever reach the top. So many wars, knockout losses... But, the worst thing is his young age which will keep him going for some time. He may feel great in practice, but my man is only going to damage himself more as time passes.

What he needs is to use his God given height and reach and give the sport one last go. This was a pretty big setback. Reaching The UFC is an accomplishment in itself so he could walk away now and have a place in the sun. It's just sad seeing someone as young as me not fighting smart and getting punched out from time to time.
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Old 03-03-2013, 03:57 PM   #70
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Even in the fights that Struve wins, he tends to get thrashed quite badly. It will be a miracle if he doesn't have any long term brain issues.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:43 PM   #71
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still cant get over him dropping his hands asking hunt to hit him in the face basically and thus getting flattened, one of the dumbest moves i have seen in a while
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:50 PM   #72
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Think he needs to take some of Overeems PEDS............ Imagine how much bigger and ripped that guy would be? Might even give him that killer instinct
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:12 PM   #73
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bumping this bad boy

so who still thinks he is potential champion????????

and i read back and saw killer instinct was a major talking factor on here in regards to the skys****er, well **** me stephan sure did show great killer instinct last night especially when he had an extremely tired hunt in front of him and when in the mount on at least 2 occasions

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You may have had a point if Struve wasn't also extremely gassed and had Struve actually not tried to go for a finish.

But, Struve was extremely tired and he did try for the finish in mount. Showing that his killer instinct () got him into touble. So much killer instinct () that he ill advisedly attacked Hunt's arm instead of just punching his guarded head.
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You may have had a point if Struve wasn't also extremely gassed and had Struve actually not tried to go for a finish.

But, Struve was extremely tired and he did try for the finish in mount. Showing that his killer instinct () got him into touble. So much killer instinct () that he ill advisedly attacked Hunt's arm instead of just punching his guarded head.

loads of killer instinct he just lacks ability and intelligence
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Old 03-03-2013, 06:16 PM   #75
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loads of killer instinct he just lacks ability and intelligence
Oh, no one will be defending Struve's ring IQ anytime soon, I don't think.
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