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Old 10-09-2012, 02:42 AM   #31
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Default Re: Chavez jr "Andre Ward is the fight I want" "If no Martinez rematch I go up to 168

Chavez would have gone from being a 'baby' according to some, to having fought 2 top 5 p4p fighters almost back to back if this happens soon.

Pretty impressive.

I would like for JR to take some momentum building fight first though. Going straight from Martinez, a fight where he lost almost every round, into another fight where its possible he could lose every round, should be softened with some ego boosters in between.

Bute I think would be a good fight for Chavez, if Bute beats him, then Ward vs Chavez was never ment to happen as JR just isnt good enough. But if he can beat Bute, it would create a lot of buzz and would give him a big boost going into a ward fight.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:58 AM   #32
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Not to long ago Jr was getting the same treatment as Canelo is now, now everyone praises his last few fights..in time grasshopper Canelo will be there too.
Don't be blind by stupidity. Jr has fought the best MW and #3 P4P in Martinez, a MW champion in Zbik, and two top 10 rated MW's (at the time of the fight) in Rubio and Lee. Who has Canelo fought FROM (not at) LMW? Oh that's right, he TRIED to fight Kirkland and Williams (I guess there were no other LMW available other than a WW Ortiz and a JrWW Lopez. Canelo is no where near Chavez resume or *****! And imagine if he fights Ward or any other TOP SMW
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:09 AM   #33
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I think Ward stops him in 7 or less.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:50 AM   #34
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Ward caught hell for accepting Dawson's challenge to fight him at 168. People whined that Ward was a coward for draining Dawson. So now Jr challenges him at 168 and Ward will destroy him. People will call Ward a coward for picking on a middleweight lol.
Jr hasn't been a middleweight in years. In fact he hasn't been a super middleweight in years either.
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Old 10-09-2012, 03:56 AM   #35
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Don't be blind by stupidity. Jr has fought the best MW and #3 P4P in Martinez, a MW champion in Zbik, and two top 10 rated MW's (at the time of the fight) in Rubio and Lee. Who has Canelo fought FROM (not at) LMW? Oh that's right, he TRIED to fight Kirkland and Williams (I guess there were no other LMW available other than a WW Ortiz and a JrWW Lopez. Canelo is no where near Chavez resume or *****! And imagine if he fights Ward or any other TOP SMW
If they both retired today and never fought again, Alvarez has the better resume, in my opinion.

Mad credit to Chavez Jr. for fighting Martinez though.

"a MW champion in Zbik" - come on now... Rhodes is a better win than that. Not to mention that the Zbik fight was super close. I scored it a draw.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:10 AM   #36
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Chavez is #teamPrinceN but Ward is as well and Ward is American Ward would kill him
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:10 AM   #37
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, dam. Jr stepping it up.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:19 AM   #38
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Losing isn't so bad after all.
runs in the mind of Jr. Always a good thing.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:21 AM   #39
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Bute I think would be a good fight for Chavez, if Bute beats him, then Ward vs Chavez was never ment to happen as JR just isnt good enough. But if he can beat Bute, it would create a lot of buzz and would give him a big boost going into a ward fight.
Bute is the only one Ward didnt want to fight, no matter what Ward says. Bute would torch jr given their styles. Ward would toy with him and win every round. Jr has no business at 168 in my opinion.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:24 AM   #40
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Bute is the only one Ward didnt want to fight, no matter what Ward says. Bute would torch jr given their styles. Ward would toy with him and win every round. Jr has no business at 168 in my opinion.
Well, I disagree on all counts. Will be interesting to see how the year plays out.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:24 AM   #41
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Jr. would get humiliated by Ward. JC could probably come out of retirement and beat Jr. easily, Jr. is simply not an elite prizefighter.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:28 AM   #42
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I wouldn't mind this fight if Chavez beats a good 168lber first. A Bika fight would be amazing and Bika would be a great test. Even a Will Rosinsky.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:29 AM   #43
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Well, I disagree on all counts. Will be interesting to see how the year plays out.
Maybe you're right, who knows. Sadly i dont think we'll ever find out since:

1. I dont think JR will step up to 168 (no money if both Bute and Ward move up)

2. Ward and Bute will most likely move up to 175
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Bute is the only one Ward didnt want to fight, no matter what Ward says. Bute would torch jr given their styles. Ward would toy with him and win every round. Jr has no business at 168 in my opinion.
If Chavez has no business at 168 than he better go to 175. He has no business at 160 coming into fights as a cruiserweight, its a disgrace and unfair.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:31 AM   #45
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I wouldn't mind this fight if Chavez beats a good 168lber first. A Bika fight would be amazing and Bika would be a great test. Even a Will Rosinsky.
Id like to see him in there with Froch. What a war that could be.
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