Sergio Martinez "TAKE THE TEST Jr or no rematch, you are not clean, you damage boxing - Page 7

Cormega · 10-09-2012, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JM22

Will Ward leave his hometown?

All but five of his 26 pro fights have been outside his hometown, and even if they did the fight in CA, Jr has a much bigger following here than Ward does. The only place you'll find more Mexicans than California is Mexico.

Cormega · 10-09-2012, 07:54 PM

And why in the fuck would Ward duck this fight? Jr isn't a big risk and he could potentially be looking at a career high payday.

turbotime · 10-09-2012, 07:57 PM

Ward would school him so badly. Props to JR for the cojones though.

kirk · 10-09-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gyll

Would Ward drop to 160 to fight Jr? After all, Chavez is the money man isn't he? Also, if Ward can beat him, he can say to his critics he went down in weight class to beat someone solid which would negate all the talk about Ward fighting Dawson with unfair advantage.

This just makes no sense all around.

1 - Ward cant make 160 healthily
2 - If he could drop to 160 healthily, he would fight Sergio, not the guy sergio just beat 11 rounds to 1.
3 - JR doesnt want to fight at 160 anymore, and stated in this very interview if he doesnt fight martinez again hes moving up. He doesnt want to fight at 160, it kills him making the weight there. It would essentially be a fight between two 168lbers, at 160.

Ward vs Chavez at middleweight makes no sense for either fighter.

Skittlez · 10-09-2012, 08:06 PM

IF Chavez Jr KO ward.

What happens?

Slothrop · 10-09-2012, 08:06 PM

Ward will fuck him up and lay him out in the center of the ring.

Slothrop · 10-09-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Skittlez

IF Chavez Jr KO ward.

What happens?

The stock market crashes and planes fall out of the sky.

Cormega · 10-09-2012, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Slothrop

The stock market crashes and planes fall out of the sky.

locard · 10-09-2012, 08:16 PM

Chavez is too ballsy for his own good, he wasn't ready for Martinez yet and he sure as hell ain't ready for Ward.

I'd expect Chavez to fight much more agressively agaisnt Ward than he did against Sergio, since Chavez wont respect Ward's puny power at all. However, Ward would frustrate his attacks all night with his trademark holding & hitting tactics and occassional slickness and win a wide UD, specially if the fight takes place in JOakland

chitownfightfan · 10-09-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spman20999

Well, it would seem like Chavez Jr at least still believes in the Chavez Jr hype. The kid has a pair of balls, I will give him that. However, if he can't beat Martinez I don't see him doing much against Ward. If he goes up in weight will he even retain his power? Without power what does he have?

His power will be more as he won't need to cut that extra 8 lbs. He's a natural SMW right now. But he's still growing. I see him being successful all the way up to 175 where I think his 190lb frame will top off.

As for having NOTHING but power.

Nah.......He's a relentless body puncher. Unless his opponent has serious power to keep him off, or is lightning fast to slip his shot and has excellent footwork to work off the ropes.....he's gonna beat them to the body.

Back Hand Slap · 10-09-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rorschach51

Respect to Jr. for having the balls to issue the challenge, I'd really like to see him fight Froch first at 168! My god what a entertaining fight that would be.

Froch would dominate and KO him.

thawk888 · 10-09-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by locard

Chavez is too ballsy for his own good, he wasn't ready for Martinez yet and he sure as hell ain't ready for Ward.

I'd expect Chavez to fight much more agressively agaisnt Ward than he did against Sergio, since Chavez wont respect Ward's puny power at all. However, Ward would frustrate his attacks all night with his trademark holding & hitting tactics and occassional slickness and win a wide UD, specially if the fight takes place in JOakland

This post oozes butt-hurt european.

thawk888 · 10-09-2012, 11:25 PM

I like Chavez Jr. so I don't want to see this fight anytime soon. No need to take two loses so close to each other.

Icanteach2005 · 10-10-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by killjoy408

ummm... my girl was doing a photoshoot at a local gym for Knoxx and I thought it would be a cool pic for me to look knocked out by my knockout gf

if you don't believe that. the correct answer is i don't know.

on a related note, I also commend Jr. for going for the tougher fights. At least he's going for exciting fights we want to see. I wish all boxers thought the same way and had his hunger.

Jr is gonna have to take the tougher fights.. I mean he do what guys like Humberto Soto did and get paid off of bogus PPV against a buch of stiffs cause he has a following but with his name he has to fight the big boys..

Jr suspention is going to be a min.. the last one was 7 months, he might just get the year this time.. nixing the possible Cinco De Mayo tilt with Ward..

H . · 10-10-2012, 01:10 AM

Ward by KO

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locard Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,675 vCash: 495	Re: Chavez jr "Andre Ward is the fight I want" "If no Martinez rematch I go up to 168 Chavez is too ballsy for his own good, he wasn't ready for Martinez yet and he sure as hell ain't ready for Ward. I'd expect Chavez to fight much more agressively agaisnt Ward than he did against Sergio, since Chavez wont respect Ward's puny power at all. However, Ward would frustrate his attacks all night with his trademark holding & hitting tactics and occassional slickness and win a wide UD, specially if the fight takes place in JOakland
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