Who Accepted Defeat Like A Man - Juan Manuel Marquez or Manny Pacquiao?

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

It's not the same situation because Pacquiao hasn't been robbed three times by Bradley.

Do you know what a robbery means in boxing?

So you think the way Bradley acted by walking off and letting his emotions get the better of him was not manly?

That is what this comes down to in the end, not even about boxing or how the fights went?

[reed_man02]

Originally Posted by D4thincarnation

Every nations media is nationalistic to a degree.

Let not forget Floyd's words, support me because I'm an American.

http://www.anongallery.org/img/5/3/t...d-editions.jpg

Taking out media outlets from the fighters countries is a good thing to do.

You may get some fair judging but you would also get get a lot of bias judging.

Of course the USA is going to be more interested in a presidential election than a foreign incident. There have also been several US magazines criticizing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Your logic is faulty. You are saying Americans can't score fights involving American fighters objectively, yet provide scorecards of Americans who scored against an American.

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

Of course the USA is going to be more interested in a presidential election than a foreign incident. There have also been several US magazines criticizing the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Your logic is faulty. You are saying Americans can't score fights involving American fighters objectively, yet provide scorecards of Americans who scored against an American.

I've seen Fox "story time" News

[reed_man02]

Originally Posted by D4thincarnation

Do you know what a robbery means in boxing?

So you think the way Bradley acted by walking off and letting his emotions get the better of him was not manly?

That is what this comes down to in the end, not even about boxing or how the fights went?

I don't think they were robberies, but Marquez does. I thought he won all three fights but the second one was close.

I was referring to Marquez walking off. Yes, if you feel you've been cheated three times, why would you wait around to kick it with the dudes that cheated you?

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

I don't think they were robberies, but Marquez does. I thought he won all three fights but the second one was close.

I was referring to Marquez walking off. Yes, if you feel you've been cheated three times, why would you wait around to kick it with the dudes that cheated you?

Pacquiao drew the first fight due to a scoring error by one of the judges.

So when you get cheated enough times, it ok to walk of in a strop like a little girl?

You either think it is ok or not, the amount of times you believe it happened is irrelevant.

[reed_man02]

Originally Posted by D4thincarnation

Pacquiao drew the first fight due to a scoring error by one of the judges.

So when you get cheated enough times, it ok to walk of in a strop like a little girl?

You either think it is ok or not, the amount of times you believe it happened is irrelevant.

Or stay like a chump and celebrate with the men who robbed you? No I rather leave and protest the injustice that occurred.

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by reed_man02

Or stay like a chump and celebrate with the men who robbed you? No I rather leave and protest the injustice that occurred.

Pacquiao is wise enough to know Bradley did not rob, him and even though he disagreed with their decision, he respected the judges decision and the sport.

He congratulated his opponent and respected the fans and the media by doing the post fight interviews.

A man will be a professional regardless of how they feel inside because he still has obligaions to fuffil. Pacquiao was not celebrating with anyone.

Did Marquez ever make an official protest? For any of the fights?

[Cormega]

Pacland....

A place where not speaking out against injustice somehow makes you better than those who do.

[ThaWiseJester]

Originally Posted by D4thincarnation

You are, wrong, Pacquiao was not happy with his performance, but he thought he won, but he knew it was a close fight.


Pacquiao knew he beat Bradley, but why get mad, Pacquiao takes things in his stride.

If he felt he had won he would not have to be unhappy about his performance..He knew he lost plain and simple..

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by ThaWiseJester

If he felt he had won he would not have to be unhappy about his performance..

Pacquiao wanted a clear and decisive victory a KO, he didn't get it.

Do you remember what the topic was?

[D4thincarnation]

Originally Posted by Cormega

Pacland....

A place where not speaking out against injustice somehow makes you better than those who do.

Originally Posted by D4thincarnation

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master,
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man, my son!

Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

[puga_ni_nana]

Originally Posted by Florez

Okay, Let's remove Bayless there, still have more Boxing Experts there. What's ur point?

ESPN, The Ring, HBO........List goes on.

• Danny Flexen, Boxing News: 115-113 Bradley
• Cameron Sharpe, Boxing Fancast: 115-115 Draw
• Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Armando Alvarez, Telemundo: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Jake Donovan, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Terry Dooley, ***********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
• Jordan Capobianco, BoxingNews24.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Franklin McNeil, Newark Star-Ledger: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Brett Okamoto, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Bunce, BoxNation.com/BBC: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Juan Manuel Marquez: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Max Kellerman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Andreas Hale, FightNews.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
• George Willis, The New York Post: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Rick Reeno, ***********.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Suge Green, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Zemach, The Queensbury Rules.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Michael Nelson, TheCruelestSport.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Tom Gray, SecondsOut.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Joel Sebastionelli, LIITR Box Radio: 116-112 Pacquiao
• CheckHook.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• ********************: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ricky Hatton: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Wayne McCullough: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Alexander Belenky, Sport-Express.ru: 116-112 Pacquiao
• Rob Day, RingNews24.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
• Ryan Burton, ***********.com: 117-112 Pacquiao
• Matt Youmans, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/FightNews.com/ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Stephen Edwards, BoxingTalk.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ron Borges, Boston Herald: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Cliff Rold, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Chris Robinson, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ronnie Shields, boxing trainer: 117-111 Pacquiao
• David Mayo, The Grand Rapids Press: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Robert Little, BlackSportsOnline.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jorge Hernandez, The Low Blow.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• David Greisman, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Benny Henderson, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ryan Phillips, BleacherReport.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Graham Parker, The Guardian (UK): 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Luis Sandoval, ***********.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jonathan Sakti, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Richie Tomasini, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tim Starks, The Queensbury Rules: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Champ Ross, DaTruthBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Darren Velasco, 8CountNews.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ryan Maquinana, Comcast Sports Net Bay Area: 117-111 Pacquiao
• George Diaz, The Orlando Sentinel: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Pacquiao
• FightersRated.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Luke Thomas, MMAFighting.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Scott Christ, BadLeftHook.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Tommy Gunn, BoxingAsylum.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Charles Farrell, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 117-111 Pacquiao
• John Perretti, No Holds Barred Radio Show: 117-111 Pacquiao
• John Raspanti, DogHouseBoxing.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Ron Lewis, Primetime/BBC: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Brent Brookhouse, SBNation.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Alexey Sukachev, Sports.ru: 117-111 Pacquiao
• Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian (UK): 118-112 Pacquiao
• Steve Lillis, BoxNation: 118-111 Pacquiao
• Nick Xouris, FightHype.com: 118-111 Pacquiao
• Brett Newton, Pound4Pound.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Joseph Herron, FightSaga.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mark Lyons, 8CountNews.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Danny "Swift" Garcia: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mike Koppinger, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ryan Songalia, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Pete O'Brien, USA Today: 118-110 Pacquiao
• John McCormick, BoxingTalk.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Victor Contreras, The Sacramento Bee: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Eric Raskin, HBO/TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Chuck Giampa, Showtime: 118-110 Pacquiao
• John Russell, boxing trainer (Buster Douglas trainer): 118-110 Pacquiao
• Rich Marotta, KFI Los Angeles: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Jeff Mayweather: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Kelsey McCarson, TheSweetScience.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Mario Cabrera, The Boxing Republic: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ramon Aranda, 3MoreRounds.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Colin Seymour, Examiner.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Nigel Collins, Espn.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Paddy Cronan, On the Grind Boxing Radio: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Denzil Stone, OnTheBreak.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Phil Jay, WorldBoxingNews.net: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Geoffrey Ciani, EastSideBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Michael Rosenthal, Ring Magazine: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Eugeny Pilipenko, Vringe.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Vadim Zhuk, Championat.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
• Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 119-111 Pacquiao
• Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 119-110 Pacquiao
• Barry Tompkins, Showtime: 119-110 Pacquiao
• Vittorio Tafur, The San Francisco Chronicle: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Ray Markarian, TheSweetScience.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Harold Lederman, HBO: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Dan Rafael, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Max Parker, BoxingWatchers.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Scott Sawitz, Fox Sports/Inside Fights: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Leroy Cleveland, FightSaga.com: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Michael Woods, ESPN: 119-109 Pacquiao
• Michael Marley, BoxingConfidential.com/Examiner.com: 119-109 Pacquiao

his point is that if bayless scored it for pac instead of bradley, those others guys are idiots like bayless. that is retarded logic.

[Timothy]

Originally Posted by bballchump11

Juan never lost to Pac

Well if you ask Marquez and his fans he actually NEVER lost to anybody except to FLOYD jr

[rorschach51]

Originally Posted by slugger3000

Manny showed so much class in that disgrace of a decision.. He didn't get upset, he was just suprised and basically laughed it off. Manny Pacquiao is a special human being.. He's one of a kind. Manny is Gods Warrior... They don't make them like that anymore... Everyone knows Manny won..

[rorschach51]

Originally Posted by RJJFan

Manny is clearly the classier and manly person. Despite the Bradley robbery acknowledged world wide by everyone worth their salt, Manny graciously congratulated Bradley as he is too manly to complain about an unjust decision. He knows as REAL MEN do, that complaining will not solve anything, only action.

Manny Pacquaio, I am proud to be a fan of yours. Long may you reign in our memories.

You know...Manny hates gays don't you.