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Old 08-24-2012, 05:53 PM   #76
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A 1990 Oscar was just a kid..
A devastatingly vicious punching kid.
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Old 08-24-2012, 07:02 PM   #77
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I dont believe Ive ever seen that early of De la Hoya footage
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:44 AM   #78
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Would anyone except Curry!?
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A devastatingly vicious punching kid.
Your right about that!
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:24 AM   #80
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How about McCallum???, or Benitez
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:23 AM   #81
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[quote=WhyYouLittle;13646826]Baer is kinda hard to measure because of his lack of consistency (between rounds even) and his complete disregard for technical discipline. He did cause an accidental death in the ring and probably have been responsible for another though. Some who witnessed him back in the day suspected he might have gone cuffed sometimes, though nothing was proven (not that I know of anyway).[/quote

I would put Baer in the with hardest punchers..Top 15 possibly..
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:54 PM   #82
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Your right about that!
Check his beyond the glory. If you can get his fight with Ivan Robinson on vimeo it's a ****ing bloodletting over a tough *******, and Oscar cuts him to absolute ribbons in the finals.
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How about McCallum???, or Benitez
No. Andddd. No.
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The 1990 Delahoya that cut Ivan Robinson to ribbons in the world championships was hitting harder than most pro lightweights at the time, if not all.
Orzubek Nazarov says no.
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No to what?
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Hardest punchers in each of those divisions...Where would you guys rank those guys who weren't supposed to have KO power, and it turns out they did. Fighters like De La Hoya, or Holyfield, Hamed, or Barerra???, And all these guys had surprising power!...Especially Oscar was knockin the **** outa guys..
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No to what?
Who gives a **** about the General Forum!
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:24 AM   #88
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No. Andddd. No.
I asked the same thing about McCallum, Curry and Benitez!....They all 3 had good power and were all great finishers.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:28 AM   #89
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Shane hit really hard at 135. At 147 as well, I mean afterall he did stop Margarito and had him down a couple times.

Thats right Shane did have Margarito down a coupe times..good call
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Yes. Tua did not have much in the way of technical skills, but in terms of sheer, brute punching power, he was among the very best the division has seen.

I actually think Tua had more single-shot KO power than Tyson. Tyson had excellent single shot power in his own right, but part of what made him special to me at least was how explosive he was, his blend of handspeed AND power. Tyson could string together fast, powerful combinations very easily, all with solid KO power in his prime. Those would leave his victims battered and unable to continue in most cases, but he seldom knocked a guy completely senseless the way Tua did to Ruiz, for instance.

Tua, meanwhile, didn't have the same handspeed or explosiveness, but he tried to decapitate the other guy with almost every punch he threw. It also didn't seem to matter whether or not he was getting schooled or roughed up at any time, either. There have been a number of Tua fights (Rahman and Maskaev come to mind immediately) where he was getting handily outboxed and beaten, only to suddenly end the fight with one shot. Tua had one shot KO power at any time of the fight.

I love Tyson, but he really didn't get too many KO's after the middle rounds. I think his power was at its greatest for the first two thirds of the fight, and then eased off a little. Most people couldn't survive the first 7-8 rounds of him, and if they did, they were usually in gunshy retreat mode. That's part of what made him almost unbeatable in his prime. That insanely destructive assault early on would break the confidence of just about all but the most mentally strong ATG heavyweights (like Ali) to the point they wouldn't want to try to win the fight later.
Tua was a "C" class fighter at best..Who did he fight and what the hell do you think you have happened to Tua had he fought Holy, Tyson, Lewis or Wlad!?..Tua aint ****..
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