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Old 10-13-2012, 08:56 AM   #16
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Dom will be the downfall, not that I think he will be, but I know he will be the first port of call for an excuse if he under performs or looses. They were already at it last fight. Including that tit Hearn.

Better send him over to Freddie Roach so he can get a reality check and sent back damaged goods.
I think he could do with a change of trainers, doesnt really suite the ingle style, but i dont think he needs to go to American to get a good coach despite what everyone says! There are some great trainers here in the UK!
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:58 AM   #17
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Brook should have gone with McCracken when he had the chance IMO, Rob would drill the basics into Kell.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:03 AM   #18
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Brook should have gone with McCracken when he had the chance IMO, Rob would drill the basics into Kell.
and give sound advice inbetween rounds unlike the chaos he had in his last fight
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:12 AM   #19
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McCraken ain't the answer either. I saw the same happen with Junior Witter, although he stayed with the Ingles for his career instead of moving on to another level.

I don't think Dom is bad, don't get me wrong, but it's normally the case when a fighter under performs or looses that they will look for an excuse to cling onto and 9 times out of 10 its directly or indirectly aimed at the trainer. And 99% of the time thats complete BS, no fighter wants to be honest and admit it was there own fault. But the ones who come back stronger, are those that are honest with themselves, because they can genuinely move forward and learn.

Virgil Hunter is the next level for Brook, but it looks like Khan already got in, Freddie Roach is a no no no no no, Emmanuel Steward aint well, Roger Mayweather I doubt also, Joel Diaz? Maybe. McCraken? I don't see getting any more out of him than what the Ingles are doing. Jim McDonnell don't think so at all. So what does that leave, staying at the Ingle gym? Clev's dad? I doubt. Ricky Burns trainer? **** knows.

Adam Booth could be a decent shout!

I think it's about gameplans and improving on what he has now.

But I guarantee if Brook repeats the Carson Jones thing, not necessarily in the next fight, but in the next few fights, they'll shift all the blame onto Dominic Ingle.
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:18 AM   #20
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McCraken ain't the answer either. I saw the same happen with Junior Witter, although he stayed with the Ingles for his career instead of moving on to another level.

I don't think Dom is bad, don't get me wrong, but it's normally the case when a fighter under performs or looses that they will look for an excuse to cling onto and 9 times out of 10 its directly or indirectly aimed at the trainer. And 99% of the time thats complete BS, no fighter wants to be honest and admit it was there own fault. But the ones who come back stronger, are those that are honest with themselves, because they can genuinely move forward and learn.

Virgil Hunter is the next level for Brook, but it looks like Khan already got in, Freddie Roach is a no no no no no, Emmanuel Steward aint well, Roger Mayweather I doubt also, Joel Diaz? Maybe. McCraken? I don't see getting any more out of him than what the Ingles are doing. Jim McDonnell don't think so at all. So what does that leave, staying at the Ingle gym? Clev's dad? I doubt. Ricky Burns trainer? **** knows.

Adam Booth could be a decent shout!

I think it's about gameplans and improving on what he has now.

But I guarantee if Brook repeats the Carson Jones thing, not necessarily in the next fight, but in the next few fights, they'll shift all the blame onto Dominic Ingle.
I hope you were being sarcastic suggesting Clevs dad! Dont make much of Jim "good boy, good boy" Mcdonnell.

Adam Booth or Mckracken would be a good shout. I dont think a mobve would be that big a deal for brook, was it kid Gallhad that said Kell didnt have much of a personal relationship with Dominic?
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When did Hearn blame the Ingles after the Jones fight? He blamed Kell for cutting corners in training
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Old 10-13-2012, 09:24 AM   #22
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I was just throwing names out in the mix, but Adam Booth could be the best shout for me. I don't like Adam Booth, but he sends his fighters out with a clear gameplan and they generally keep it throughout a fight. He is very defensive and sends his fighters out to not loose first and foremost and its that, that sometimes backfires, like Haye vs Klitschko.

Could work wonders for Kell, because he is talented, but it could be more of the same and fall short at the top.
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When did Hearn blame the Ingles after the Jones fight? He blamed Kell for cutting corners in training
It's a pop at the Ingles, believe me.

Hearn has a way with words, he says all the right things, but they jolly well know who they was pointing the finger at. Kell of course will get it because he is the fighter, but the eyes were on the Ingles. If Kell cut corners, the Ingles let him cut them.

Indirectly it was a pop at the camp. It's how PR works.

If Kell has another of night in the future, it'll be the same shit again, although this time straight to the point. But I doubt Kell will be of to the states to train, Hearn wants his fighters here.
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I agree with this. ****ing idiot Hearn talking about "50%". If Kell can be twice as good no human being will ever beat him. Trouble is Carson Jones was just a lot better than anyone Kell had fought before, and even worse Carson Jones is no world champ. I've been really disappointed to see all the excuses from Kell's camp about that fight. He showed loads of guts and won a tough fight. Deluding himself that some nutritionist can make him twice as good will lead him to a proper hiding soon enough.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:27 AM   #25
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He's been looker much leaner in the face than before all the way through the build-up & seems to be in excellent shape.

I cant believe what Hearn said about Kell only operating at 50% of his potential capacity but there is a visible difference in Kell & hopefully that will translate into a better performance, with improved stamina & power.

I think he looked sharp on the pads (although its only a public workout) & was switching stance quite often. Brook doesnt switch as often as some Ingle fighters so that might be a tactic for the Sanavia fight.
50%? is this due to not training properly due to believing he could get by on skills and self confidence alone?
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:40 AM   #26
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50%? is this due to not training properly due to believing he could get by on skills and self confidence alone?
Both.
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