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Old 10-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #1
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Default Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:19 AM   #2
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Agreed!
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:20 AM   #3
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The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:23 AM   #4
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

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- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.
Its not normally that i agree with you, but i do so here
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:29 AM   #5
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I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:31 AM   #6
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I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.
Give it a watch when you can.

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:32 AM   #7
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:39 AM   #8
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yes, in other words he has been outclassed once
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:11 PM   #9
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

Anyone have any details about his firsy loss by DQ? I know it resulted by a punch landed supposivley after the bell or something along those lines...Even as a huge JMM fan, i dont have the exact details about that.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:14 PM   #10
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

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The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.
damn you have Juan winning ALL THREE fights!?
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:18 PM   #11
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JMM has only fought 2 fighters near his level of competition so that really don't mean shit




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Old 10-13-2012, 02:19 PM   #12
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

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Give it a watch when you can.

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.
You mention the 3 pacquiao fights but don't mention norwood or John.. Both were very close.. I actually had JMM winning those..
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:24 PM   #13
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Default Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

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he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.
I have to agree with this.



....except for the undefeated part. I thought Pacquiao won the 2nd fight.
*bracing for incoming onslaught*
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:34 PM   #14
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JMM fans are annoying. 3 close fights to Pac = 3 robberies. Shut up. He'll lose once again.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:36 PM   #15
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Well, Pac really should have gotten the decision in the first fight, it was the judges scoring error. But Juan really got screwed in the third fight.
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