Roy Jones vs. Harry Greb @ MW.

VG_Addict · 10-11-2012, 08:29 PM

15 rounds.

Seamus · 10-11-2012, 08:42 PM

Who the fuck knows?

LittleRed · 10-11-2012, 09:19 PM

Insulting Seamus! I asked my good friend Mr. Peabody to take me and 1994 RJ to 1919 in the Way Back Machine where we watched them go at it in a spirited 10 rounder in Erie, Pennsylvania. I gave the slight edge to Jones, Peabody to Greb in an awkward, ugly but brilliant affair. Then I tried to warn people about the Stock Market crash but Peabody tranq'd me. Then we had pancakes.

PhillyPhan69 · 10-11-2012, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Insulting Seamus! I asked my good friend Mr. Peabody to take me and 1994 RJ to 1919 in the Way Back Machine where we watched them go at it in a spirited 10 rounder in Erie, Pennsylvania. I gave the slight edge to Jones, Peabody to Greb in an awkward, ugly but brilliant affair. Then I tried to warn people about the Stock Market crash but Peabody tranq'd me. Then we had pancakes.

10 rounders suck, and don't prove a thing!

LittleRed · 10-11-2012, 10:46 PM

Not to put too fine a point on it but 10 rounds proved Greb over Loughran and, by proxy, Pittsburgh over Philadelphia.

PhillyPhan69 · 10-11-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleRed

Not to put too fine a point on it but 10 rounds proved Greb over Loughran and, by proxy, Pittsburgh over Philadelphia.

You are the devil!

TheSouthpaw · 10-12-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillyPhan69

You are the devil!

I agree with you..Im not a big fan of 10 rounds and they dont prove shit my man...

dpw417 · 10-12-2012, 08:13 PM

Roy Jones would have put a serious whupping on George Chip...judging from the video.

lufcrazy · 10-13-2012, 05:28 AM

No way of knowing given the lack of available footage.

Of all those I have seen at MW though, I'd only favour Robinson over Jones given a same day weigh in. If Jones is allowed to Balloon to 175, I doubt anyone can beat him.

thistle1 · 10-13-2012, 07:31 AM

Jones was NEVER a MW...

nobody ever allows for such realities when making these mythical match ups.

RJJ was a Big guy in the trues sense, and fighting at almost any other time bar the last 30 years he (like so many more), would have been competing in a higher weight division.

Jones is a L-HW cum HW, now this wouldn't bother old Harry nor men of his ilk, however it is considerations one has to include in these fantasy fights. Bigger fighters (HEIGHT & weight), can't suddenly become smaller people, nor could Greb or others suddenly become bigger men!!!

Greb could beat him sure he could, as he did so many others, but Roy the Boy could defeat Greb too, so it depends on the weight, 175 is more realistic.

No trouble for Harry to make, but Jones would work to stay there, I'd take Harry more often than not, but expect a Jones win every other fight!

Flea Man · 10-13-2012, 07:40 AM

Same day weigh in fight with 175/180 set as the limit would be fine.

No idea how it'd go.

lufcrazy · 10-13-2012, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thistle1

Jones was NEVER a MW...

nobody ever allows for such realities when making these mythical match ups.

RJJ was a Big guy in the trues sense, and fighting at almost any other time bar the last 30 years he (like so many more), would have been competing in a higher weight division.

Jones is a L-HW cum HW, now this wouldn't bother old Harry nor men of his ilk, however it is considerations one has to include in these fantasy fights. Bigger fighters (HEIGHT & weight), can't suddenly become smaller people, nor could Greb or others suddenly become bigger men!!!

Greb could beat him sure he could, as he did so many others, but Roy the Boy could defeat Greb too, so it depends on the weight, 175 is more realistic.

No trouble for Harry to make, but Jones would work to stay there, I'd take Harry more often than not, but expect a Jones win every other fight!

but only he was, wasn't he.

thistle1 · 10-13-2012, 09:32 AM

you know fine well what I'm talking about!

burt bienstock · 10-13-2012, 10:46 AM

when comparing Roy Jones against Harry Greb or ANY other MW we must stipulate 160 pounds or less day of the fight...Roy Jones was born over 160 pounds...The oldtime MW
fighters made 158-60 the day of the bout as did other division fighters...
Roy Jones was great at his weight, but comparing one great LH Roy Jones against an Archie Moore, an Ezzard Charles at LH does not take into account of the longevity
factor in amount of bouts they fought versus Roy Jones and the great opposition
Moore and Ezzard faced and conquered...
Like comparing a baseball hitter that hits 340 for two seasons as opposed to another player that averages 340 over 10 seasons...A helluva lot harder to do....

Nightcrawler · 10-13-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by burt bienstock

when comparing Roy Jones against Harry Greb or ANY other MW we must stipulate 160 pounds or less day of the fight...Roy Jones was born over 160 pounds...The oldtime MW
fighters made 158-60 the day of the bout as did other division fighters...
Roy Jones was great at his weight, but comparing one great LH Roy Jones against an Archie Moore, an Ezzard Charles at LH does not take into account of the longevity
factor in amount of bouts they fought versus Roy Jones and the great opposition
Moore and Ezzard faced and conquered...
Like comparing a baseball hitter that hits 340 for two seasons as opposed to another player that averages 340 over 10 seasons...A helluva lot harder to do....

Burt, I like this post a lot and you raise really valid points WITHOUT disrespecting or dismissing jones. same day weigh ins WERE harder and would prevent jones from going up to 180 by the time of the fight. his longevity is also very different from someone like greb, along with his activity (no 45 fights a year for jones). doesn't mean he couldn't win, but you have to consider a number of other factors

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thistle1 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,222 vCash: 1000	Re: Roy Jones vs. Harry Greb @ MW. Jones was NEVER a MW... nobody ever allows for such realities when making these mythical match ups. RJJ was a Big guy in the trues sense, and fighting at almost any other time bar the last 30 years he (like so many more), would have been competing in a higher weight division. Jones is a L-HW cum HW, now this wouldn't bother old Harry nor men of his ilk, however it is considerations one has to include in these fantasy fights. Bigger fighters (HEIGHT & weight), can't suddenly become smaller people, nor could Greb or others suddenly become bigger men!!! Greb could beat him sure he could, as he did so many others, but Roy the Boy could defeat Greb too, so it depends on the weight, 175 is more realistic. No trouble for Harry to make, but Jones would work to stay there, I'd take Harry more often than not, but expect a Jones win every other fight!
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burt bienstock Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,121 vCash: 500	Re: Roy Jones vs. Harry Greb @ MW. when comparing Roy Jones against Harry Greb or ANY other MW we must stipulate 160 pounds or less day of the fight...Roy Jones was born over 160 pounds...The oldtime MW fighters made 158-60 the day of the bout as did other division fighters... Roy Jones was great at his weight, but comparing one great LH Roy Jones against an Archie Moore, an Ezzard Charles at LH does not take into account of the longevity factor in amount of bouts they fought versus Roy Jones and the great opposition Moore and Ezzard faced and conquered... Like comparing a baseball hitter that hits 340 for two seasons as opposed to another player that averages 340 over 10 seasons...A helluva lot harder to do....
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