Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss

ajackman1 · 10-13-2012, 10:19 AM

- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.

Zopilote · 10-13-2012, 10:19 AM

Agreed!

IntentionalButt · 10-13-2012, 10:20 AM

The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.

DaveyboyEssexUK · 10-13-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ajackman1

- You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd
- His fight against John wasn't a clear loss
- Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3
- The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112.

- The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.

Its not normally that i agree with you, but i do so here

#Tremendous · 10-13-2012, 10:29 AM

I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.

IntentionalButt · 10-13-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by #Tremendous

I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.

Give it a watch when you can.

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.

puga_ni_nana · 10-13-2012, 10:32 AM

he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.

huitzi · 10-13-2012, 10:39 AM

yes, in other words he has been outclassed once

Zopilote · 10-13-2012, 12:11 PM

Anyone have any details about his firsy loss by DQ? I know it resulted by a punch landed supposivley after the bell or something along those lines...Even as a huge JMM fan, i dont have the exact details about that.

Leon · 10-13-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.

damn you have Juan winning ALL THREE fights!?

sbbigmike · 10-13-2012, 02:18 PM

JMM has only fought 2 fighters near his level of competition so that really don't mean shit

Fucking Fraud

slugger3000 · 10-13-2012, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IntentionalButt

Give it a watch when you can.

As for what's in his column, real fans know that 3 of those L's have an asterisk next to them and that his archrival never did enough on a given night to really beat him.

You mention the 3 pacquiao fights but don't mention norwood or John.. Both were very close.. I actually had JMM winning those..

Juiceboxbiotch · 10-13-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.

I have to agree with this.

....except for the undefeated part. I thought Pacquiao won the 2nd fight.
*bracing for incoming onslaught*

shanahan14 · 10-13-2012, 02:34 PM

JMM fans are annoying. 3 close fights to Pac = 3 robberies. Shut up. He'll lose once again.

turbotime · 10-13-2012, 02:36 PM

Well, Pac really should have gotten the decision in the first fight, it was the judges scoring error. But Juan really got screwed in the third fight.

10-13-2012, 10:19 AM	#1
ajackman1 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,287 vCash: 500	Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss - You can argue his only true Loss was to Floyd - His fight against John wasn't a clear loss - Marquez never clearly lost to Pacquiao. I felt Marquez won all 3 - The Norwood fight wasn't a clear loss. I had Marquez winning 114-112. - The truth is the only time you can truly say he clearly lost was when he moved up to fight Floyd.
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Zopilote Dinamita East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 10,120 vCash: 500	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss Agreed!
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IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,230 vCash: 9953	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss The John loss is legit. You can make an argument for JMM deserving the nod, but it was in no way a robbery the likes of which he suffered thrice against Pacquiao.
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#Tremendous Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 589 vCash: 500	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss I don't know about the John fight because I never watched it but to me as a fan seeing those 4 extra loses on that loss column bothers me.
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puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 21,717 vCash: 75	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss he should be undefeated since floyd cheated him off the scales.
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huitzi Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 741 vCash: 1473	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss yes, in other words he has been outclassed once
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10-13-2012, 12:11 PM	#9
Zopilote Dinamita East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Middle of Nowhere Posts: 10,120 vCash: 500	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss Anyone have any details about his firsy loss by DQ? I know it resulted by a punch landed supposivley after the bell or something along those lines...Even as a huge JMM fan, i dont have the exact details about that.
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sbbigmike Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,774 vCash: 500	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss JMM has only fought 2 fighters near his level of competition so that really don't mean shit Fucking Fraud
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shanahan14 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 517 vCash: 500	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss JMM fans are annoying. 3 close fights to Pac = 3 robberies. Shut up. He'll lose once again.
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10-13-2012, 02:36 PM	#15
turbotime Future Hall Of Famer East Side VIP Join Date: May 2012 Location: LA/Canada Posts: 18,647 vCash: 816	Re: Juan Manuel Marquez arguably only has 1 Real Loss Well, Pac really should have gotten the decision in the first fight, it was the judges scoring error. But Juan really got screwed in the third fight.
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