Pavlik is a bad fight for ward - Page 7

Cormega · 10-15-2012, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyW

My mistake. It would be a very easy win for Ward.

aceshigh · 10-15-2012, 07:02 PM

Pavlik's family better stage an intervention & fly him back to rehab immediately after this fight.

brnxhands · 10-15-2012, 07:04 PM

we'll see when it happens. an from the talks it is likely. im a huge fan of ward by the way. i just think for some reason pavlik will trouble him. Andre is a good dude an great fighter I just personally think kelly will give him problems.

Nonito Smoak · 10-15-2012, 07:04 PM

Ward wouldn't lose more than two rounds, tops.

Hermit · 10-15-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

we'll see when it happens. an from the talks it is likely.

And you know what is going on with the talks how?

iceman71 · 10-15-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermit

And you know what is going on with the talks how?

i know right?

brnxhands · 10-15-2012, 07:09 PM

It will be signed in a month or two

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Originally Posted by Hermit

And you know what is going on with the talks how?

booradley · 10-15-2012, 07:16 PM

Let's try a little reality check.

In 42 fights Pavlik had trouble with cuts ONE TIME, and in that fight the cut man was so incompetent that when he went to pick up his check Cameron Duncan gave him half the money, and said, "Get the fuck out of my office, and don't ever let me see your face again!"

In 42 fights Pavlik has been seriously hurt ONE TIME. Hopkins hit him almost at will, and never came close to putting him away. When Lampley ask BHop if he was trying to knock Kelly out, Bernard said emphatically, "YES, ABSOLUTELY."

Andre Ward WILL NOT stop Pavlik, or even come close to stopping him. There may be some beast out there on the rise who will eventually knock KP out, but Andre Ward is no beast. Ward couldn't even stop a seriously faded Miranda; a guy Bute, Abraham, and Pavlik all beat seven shades of shit out of.

Hermit · 10-15-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

It will be signed in a month or two

Pavlik better leave for Bullnads now then. His training has gone well under Garcia but he has a lot of reps to get in then. Besides, one or two months is an eternity in boxing. Way too much could happen. But, as my previous thread hinted at, they are the only two upper level guys without dance partners at the moment at 168.

booradley · 10-15-2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermit

And you know what is going on with the talks how?

Ward said it looks like a go, but he has not seen a contract yet. That's not surprising since negotiations just started.

Hermit · 10-15-2012, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booradley

Let's try a little reality check.

In 42 fights Pavlik had trouble with cuts ONE TIME, and in that fight the cut man was so incompetent that when he went to pick up his check Cameron Duncan gave him half the money, and said, "Get the fuck out of my office, and don't ever let me see your face again!"

It goes a bit further than that. The guy was a doctor and pumped Kelly full of intravenous fluids. There is some speculation as to that is why he cut so easily and why this 'cut man' couldn't get it stopped. He was like a pimple ready to pop. Cut was just streaming blood into the eye too.

booradley · 10-15-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Son of Gaul

Good post but Goossen had better be prepared to throw some SERIOUS money at Kelly if he's gonna take this fight. Pavlik knows that he's still a big draw, has a ton of options at 168/175 and can make good money against all of them.
Why take a fight that will likely end his career for chump change(by his standards) when he can make really good money against beatable guys like Abraham or Froch? With that said, I'd rather see Kelly pick up a minor belt against Rodriguez first, then fight Abraham or Froch, THEN cash out against Ward.

I read all your posts before I picked up a quote. I like the way you're thinking, and agree with you 100%. Beat Rodriguez on HBO, and then go after AA. Abraham spent a couple years talking smack, and then ducking behind the scenes. If KP were to bring that old stuff up, and start publicly calling for AA to put up or apoligize, that would be a smart move, and good marketing.

Hermit · 10-15-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by booradley

I read all your posts before I picked up a quote. I like the way you're thinking, and agree with you 100%. Beat Rodriguez on HBO, and then go after AA. Abraham spent a couple years talking smack, and then ducking behind the scenes. If KP were to bring that old stuff up, and start publicly calling for AA to put up or apoligize, that would be a smart move, and good marketing.

Now that Saurland bought him another belt you know EXACTLY what AA is going to do. Simon and Ayala are more likely to get rematches that AA fighting Kelly.

rodney · 10-15-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brnxhands

Bhop was matured an not exactly past prime. Bhop beat a pavlik that was on a binge

Not true. Pavlic is much better now.

brnxhands · 10-15-2012, 08:08 PM

he was half drunk in the ring. he looked flush an sick. stop fuckin denying this. good win for bernard though

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Not true. Pavlic is much better now.

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booradley Mean People Kick Ass! East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 20,365 vCash: 622	Re: Pavlik is a bad fight for ward Let's try a little reality check. In 42 fights Pavlik had trouble with cuts ONE TIME, and in that fight the cut man was so incompetent that when he went to pick up his check Cameron Duncan gave him half the money, and said, "Get the fuck out of my office, and don't ever let me see your face again!" In 42 fights Pavlik has been seriously hurt ONE TIME. Hopkins hit him almost at will, and never came close to putting him away. When Lampley ask BHop if he was trying to knock Kelly out, Bernard said emphatically, "YES, ABSOLUTELY." Andre Ward WILL NOT stop Pavlik, or even come close to stopping him. There may be some beast out there on the rise who will eventually knock KP out, but Andre Ward is no beast. Ward couldn't even stop a seriously faded Miranda; a guy Bute, Abraham, and Pavlik all beat seven shades of shit out of.
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