Froch V Calzaghe. A Close Fight?

[HoldMyBeer]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Do you know why Calzaghe fans love Kessler so much? Its because he's the only name that gives Joe's record any credibility. Hahaha , owned.

spot on

[HoldMyBeer]

Originally Posted by bailey

Many people are mislead because Froch exposed Ward.

do you really believe this shit or are you really that ****ed in the head?
on another note, have you told joe and enzo you have wet dreams about them

[general zod]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

He'll go so far as to disrespect Froch in his attempt to credit Calzaghe.

He will discredit any fighter whose resume gets compared to Calzaghe's, except the great Ottke's

[realsoulja]

Originally Posted by assasin

calzaghe wouldn't need to adapt to froch as there's nothing to adapt to.

Do you seriously think Calzaghe would win 12 - 0 against Carl Froch?

You dont know Froch about Carl.

[HoldMyBeer]

Originally Posted by realsoulja

Do you seriously think Calzaghe would win 12 - 0 against Carl Froch?

You dont know Froch about Carl.

it wouldnt be a shutout but it would be a fairly comfortable win for cal

[bailey]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Kessler had a brocken hand against Calzaghe and Froch had a stiff back against Kessler.
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Odd, Kessler said after the fight that he had no hand problems. Kessler said this himself and you dont note that Calzaghe had two bad hands and was fighting like that for a long time

[bailey]

Originally Posted by general zod

Froch is the only win on Kessler's resume worth mentioning. You cannot put down Froch without putting down Kessler's resume.

No it isnt .
At that time Kessler was coming off a loss and Froch hadnt beaten one top SMW, not one, Pascal wasnt, Dirrell wasnt and Taylor wasnt, so stop the BS, also many felt he lost one of those, was behind before a last minute stoppage on another and few think he lost the other.
Siaca for beating Mundine at that time had done every bit as much as Froch with that one win. Kessler had also beaten Mundine and Beyer also as well as undefeated Andrade, Sartison also, so stop the BS

[bailey]

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

spot on

You really dont know the division pre Lacy do you.
Well if thats Calzaghes only win it looks like Ward hasnt any good wins, as Kessler was an unwell leftover of Calzaghes

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

do you really believe this shit or are you really that ****ed in the head?
on another note, have you told joe and enzo you have wet dreams about them

Did you watch the fight ? Froch was winning the last few rounds and exposed Wards stamina as a problem and Froch has a low workrate. Bika did the same.
Are you one of the fools that think Ward was winning the last round against Froch and Bika?
HoldMyBeer cant seem to hold his beer and makes silly posts whenever he has a couple.

Originally Posted by general zod

He will discredit any fighter whose resume gets compared to Calzaghe's, except the great Ottke's

Absolute rubbish trying to disguise an inability to win a debate against me. Your daddy Bailey

[realsoulja]

Originally Posted by bailey

Froch has a low workrate.

Compared to Calzaghe, I agree Froch has the lower workrate.

But I think Froch is one of the few fighters today that would suit well in a 15 rounder. His workrate aint low at all, he averaged like 80 punches a round Vs Abraham, Johnson, Kessler which is a good workrate level for the SMW division.

Calzaghe averaged 84 punches a round vs Kessler. Froch against the same opponent averaged 80.1.

So you can see Froch aint too bad when it comes to workrate.

[assasin]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Do you know why Calzaghe fans love Kessler so much? Its because he's the only name that gives Joe's record any credibility. Hahaha , owned.

yeah, sure. no fighter on his record has any credit other than kessler. what a stupid thing to say. though i wouldn't expect anything other than stupid because it's coming from you.

you emphasize your stupidity when you write "owned". how anyone can be owned by your post is beyond me. silly little boy.

[assasin]

Originally Posted by Barry Smith

This is the thing with fanboys. It is not enough to say their hero would win, you have to say he wins easily, otherwise they start crying.

Robin Reid gave Calzaghe all he could handle and Froch is much better than Reid.

so people are crying because they say calzaghe would be a nightmare in style for froch?

that's not crying, that's laying down a fact. says how much you know about style matchups in boxing. (sarcastic)

it doesn't work like that. yes, reid gave him a tough fight, but it doesn't mean froch would give him a tougher one. again, you show just how simple minded you are.

[assasin]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Kessler had a brocken hand against Calzaghe and Froch had a stiff back against Kessler.
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when kessler had his check up before the fight they found nothing wrong with him. if he had a broken hand, there would be at least some evidence for this. there wasn't. he may have had a sore hand, and missed a few days of sparring, but that's all.

[assasin]

Originally Posted by realsoulja

Do you seriously think Calzaghe would win 12 - 0 against Carl Froch?

You dont know Froch about Carl.

i think calzaghe would win clearly. for the sake of argument, 10-2 in rounds. happy now?

no you're right, i know nothing about my favorite fighter from poland. he's a good fighter though that frunch.

keep winning those debates.

[pmfan]

Originally Posted by realsoulja

Calzaghe has been floored 4 times in his career.

RJJ floored him with a right hand.
Hopkins floored him with a right hand.
Salem floored him with a right hand.
Mitchell floored him with a right hand.

This is not the only incident the southpaw has eaten right hands, Eubank, Reid and Kessler also had success with the right hand.

Carl Froch, he has that weapon in his arsenal, and demonstrated it to good affect against southpaw Magee, switch hitter Dirrell and southpaw Bute.

For these reasons I think Carl Froch would have success against Calzaghe but Calzaghe would eventually adapt and cruise to a UD as he did against Eubank, Reid and Kessler. However, if Froch stuns Calzaghe like Kabery Salem, or Byron Mithcell did (Salem and Mitchell are not on the same level as Froch) I can see a possible TKO for Carl Froch who is a good finisher and has a decent engine himself.

Don't misunderstand the above to be me thinking Froch would mos def KO Calzaghe, I am saying Froch has a legitimate punchers chance. If the fight does finish within the distance, we all can agree it would be Froch's hand raised, however I would still go for a Calzaghe UD for it makes more sense.
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Also, think about it whenever Calzaghe has been hurt he got up and came back like a whirlwind, he rarely fought on the backfoot and his main game is to fight from mid range and use his superior workrate. All this would play into Froch's style who would welcome the opportunity for a scrap especially if Calzaghe been rocked.

RJJ floored him with a illegal blow from his forearm (completely unintentionally). It was bone on bone and, if the ref had seen it clearly, Joe would have received 5 minutes to recover. As it was, he recovered quickly. No gloved punch of RJJ had any effect on Calzaghe during the fight.

If you watch the slo mo replay of the "knockdown" you will see it clearly.

[ElCep]

I'm sorry to say that it should be a relatively easy night for Calzaghe. I respect Froch's pverall career attitude and mentality much more, but Calzaghe's work rate would be the difference in an actual fight, he'd just land too much too often, without making a dent in Froch, but piling on the points on the judges' cards. I don't think it's out of the question that Froch could potentially stop Calzaghe though....