Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT?

[techks]

I first followed MMA in 07 so I've seen some of Fedor's prime while it was happening but I felt like the media was shoving him too much down our throats so I considered him overrated. Fedor to me was a wild brawler with decent ground game and I preferred Silva's style much more. I liked Silva at that time and still do. I used to consider him the best or up there with Royce but when Anderson was/is considered the GOAT I considered him slightly overrated. Anderson's dominance and longetivity are brilliant though.

Looking at it now I didn't at the time realize just how big his wins over Nog and Cop were as well as Andrei possibly being a better win at the time then a Franklin but def a Sonnen or Belfort. I've never held the losses at the end of his career against him as he isn't making a living tarnishing his career like a Roy and his prime is still fresh in my memory. Both excellent fighters though now I gotta say Fedor until Silva beats JBJ if he does. Love Fedor's willingness to fight anyone but love Silva's style more. Both well-rounded fighters and legends that will never be duplicated.

Originally Posted by Beouche

I disregard his losses - Fedor at the tail end of his career and prime Fedor are two totally different beasts. Same applies to Cro Cop. Both guys were beaten by guys they would have whooped in their primes

Cop and Nog are ATGs and though Henderson and Franklin are good wins, they dont compete

If he wants an ATG on his resume - then man up and fight Bones. His attitude to that fight tells you all you need to know

For the record, i think Anderson is the most skilled MMA fighter of all time, but his resume and attitude towards fighting the best lets him down

Agree with everything apart from "fighting the best". I wouldn't say he's reluctant to fight the best I'd say he's reluctant to fight guys elite that are in a bigger weightclass than him. Not only JBJ but he refused Evans too. Not that I think Evans would've beaten him but still he showed reluctance to face him aswell as Johnny.

[Flea Man]

Fedor was not a 'wild brawler' at all IMO, his feints were superb, as was his timing.

[techks]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Fedor was not a 'wild brawler' at all IMO, his feints were superb, as was his timing.

I was an unecessary criticizer. Easy to see things that weren't there

Now I appreciate the guy and really do feel like he's the best. IMO Royce,Silva,& Fedor all have cases but Fedor's is the strongest.

BTW, forgot about the Griffin fight in my post which was better than Andrei. Just enjoying Silva while I can along with Jones and GSP if he looks close to what he was before ACL injury. Great talents to the sport.

[Vic-JofreBRASIL]

Originally Posted by Haggis McJackass

What kind of Brazilian are you.

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[Muchmoore]

Fedor.

LOL at people acting like Fedor doesn't have anything on his resume past Big Bog and Cro Cop 9 (as if you even need that much more )

Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Andre Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Gary Goodridge, unbeaten Brett Rogers, Ricardo Arona, Heath Herring, Semmy Schilt. Those guys were bad ass dudes.

[techks]

Originally Posted by Muchmoore

Fedor.

LOL at people acting like Fedor doesn't have anything on his resume past Big Bog and Cro Cop 9 (as if you even need that much more )

Mark Hunt, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Andre Arlovski, Tim Sylvia, Gary Goodridge, unbeaten Brett Rogers, Ricardo Arona, Heath Herring, Semmy Schilt. Those guys were bad ass dudes.

Forgot about these names. Not sleeping on the others but these are the ones that stand out more to me. Think people forgot how great Fedor was the guys was running over people.

[Deckard]

Such homers for Fedor on this site it's ridic.

[dillinja]

Originally Posted by Deckard

Such homers for Fedor on this site it's ridic.

|Not really people have just watched mma for more than 3 years so they know whats up.

[KERRIGAN]

Fedor was a Glass Jawed Fraud and is massively overrated.

Anderson is easily the GOAT.

And how fucked in the head does someone have to be to rank GSP ahead of Anderson?

[dillinja]

Originally Posted by KERRIGAN

Fedor was a Glass Jawed Fraud and is massively overrated.

Anderson is easily the GOAT.

And how fucked in the head does someone have to be to rank GSP ahead of Anderson?

[chimba]

Anderson Silva. I hated the guy but there is no one like him. Actually he is clear GOAT at this point.

[HeGlassedMe]

at the question.
Fedya.

[dillinja]

Originally Posted by chimba

Anderson Silva. I hated the guy but there is no one like him. Actually he is clear GOAT at this point.

Explain this then, you say he is the goat but has bad loses to average fighters at the start of his career and although he has gone on an excellent run now he has hardly beaten a great range of atg fighters.

[chimba]

Originally Posted by dillinja

Explain this then, you say he is the goat but has bad loses to average fighters at the start of his career and although he has gone on an excellent run now he has hardly beaten a great range of atg fighters.

Everyone can lose but that was almost a decade ago. Right now, there is not one fighter that I think can beat Silva outside of the massive HWs. You cant stand with the guy and 80% of the fighting is on its feet and He is more than quality on the ground.

He can only beat those who are in front of him and Hes beaten them in such convincing fashion that you can pretty much deduce other outcomes (pretty much the same with Floyd although Silva has faced better competition).

His Resume is better than that of Fedor who has not fought anyone since Crocop and Nog in a decision. Dont get me wrong Fedor is great but I think Silva has surpassed him and I like Fedor more than Silva.

I could care less for Silva and Ive been posting that for years here and I love Jon Jones (not lately) but even with this I have to be very ojective, Jones would get beaten up.

There will be a time that Silva will be impossible to take down, the guy keeps getting better and I'm quite shocked because this guy came from being tripped up by Lutter with his pinky to being amused by Bonnars (who is massive) TD attemps.

[Deckard]

Originally Posted by dillinja

|Not really people have just watched mma for more than 3 years so they know whats up.

Ah, the usual tedious riposte from Fedor fanboys, some snooty snarky jibe about watching the sport for longer than a determined time frame deemed truly sufficient to be 'knowledgeable' of the sport.

Because no one could ever have an earnest opinion that after weighing up the positions conclude that Fedor does not deserve to be considered GOAT given his opposition, can fights, and refusing to fight in the biggest venue in the sport after the demise of Pride.