Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? - Page 4

Deckard · 10-20-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Muchmoore

He's beaten better fighters than Silva has by a mile

Who on Silva's resume comes close to prime Cro Cop or Nog?

Henderson. It's not like he's one of the greatest P4P fighters of all time or anything.

And fuck Crocop. Overrated as fuck.

Flea Man · 10-20-2012, 11:25 PM

Hendo was weight drained.

Rob_Floyd · 10-21-2012, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard

Henderson. It's not like he's one of the greatest P4P fighters of all time or anything.

And fuck Crocop. Overrated as fuck.

Wins over Aerts, Le Banner, Bonjasky, Feitosa, Bernardo, Hunt, and more in K1.

Wins over Barnett x3, Coleman, Randleman, Igor, Herring, Wanderlei, Fujita x2, and more in MMA.

Not overrated.

rusty nails · 10-21-2012, 02:43 AM

fedor is the greatest but silva is the better fighter.
if silva beats jones he takes the top spot.

Deckard · 10-21-2012, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

Wins over Barnett x3, Coleman, Randleman, Igor, Herring, Wanderlei, Fujita x2, and more in MMA.

Not overrated.

K1 fights are irrelevant. Barnett? Only 1 of those wins was truly legit and impressive. And even the legit one was a victory after Barnett just had a vicious fight with Nogueira like an hour beforehand.

Coleman, Randleman? No.

Igor. Meh, he's an alright win.

Herring? No.

Wanderlei? A guy who by rights should have been a middleweight AND should have lost to in their first fight under normal rules.

Fujita 2x?

Rob_Floyd · 10-21-2012, 03:30 AM

How exactly was his second win over Barnett not legit?

Deckard · 10-21-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob_Floyd

How exactly was his second win over Barnett not legit?

Barnett was massively overweight and hadn't fought in a year and was coming off an injury.

Johnstown · 10-21-2012, 05:45 AM

For the guys who pick Fedor.....what if Anderson beats GSP, and than beats Bones Jones....would you still pick Fedor then?

The Spider · 10-21-2012, 07:13 AM

Voted 'Slight edge to Anderson'. Because I'm realistic enough to admit that it's a close call.

dillinja · 10-21-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard

Ah, the usual tedious riposte from Fedor fanboys, some snooty snarky jibe about watching the sport for longer than a determined time frame deemed truly sufficient to be 'knowledgeable' of the sport.

Because no one could ever have an earnest opinion that after weighing up the positions conclude that Fedor does not deserve to be considered GOAT given his opposition, can fights, and refusing to fight in the biggest venue in the sport after the demise of Pride.

No someone can have a different opinion thats why i asked chimba to give a response as to why he thinks silva is better

Hoshi · 10-21-2012, 09:47 AM

Fedor by a big margin.

Fedor, Nogueira and GSP all have much better resumes.

(PimpThaSystem) · 10-21-2012, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Deckard

K1 fights are irrelevant. Barnett? Only 1 of those wins was truly legit and impressive. And even the legit one was a victory after Barnett just had a vicious fight with Nogueira like an hour beforehand.

Coleman, Randleman? No.

Igor. Meh, he's an alright win.

Herring? No.

Wanderlei? A guy who by rights should have been a middleweight AND should have lost to in their first fight under normal rules.

Fujita 2x?

Heath Herring was a legit win, or at least a more legit win than Igor. Heath was a tough fucking dude who had beaten Mark Kerr, Igor, and Tom Erickson (robbed blind against Vitor) and gave Big Nog and Fedor two of their toughest fights. Cro Cop on the other hand destroyed him.

But yeah I totally agree with you on Cro Cop being overrated as a MMA fighter

Rob_Floyd · 10-21-2012, 02:26 PM

Outside of the last minute position reversal, Herring was far from a hard fight for Fedor. That was one of Fedor's best beatdowns.

codeman99998 · 10-21-2012, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnstown

For the guys who pick Fedor.....what if Anderson beats GSP, and than beats Bones Jones....would you still pick Fedor then?

I picked Fedor.

If Anderson beats GSP AND Jon Jones than I think there can be no argument that it is definitely Anderson.

Frankly, no single victory that Fedor has could match an Anderson win over Jon Jones. Beating GSP is all well and good, and I think many people who have Fedor p4p #1 all time might switch if Anderson beats GSP. That said, moving up in weight and fighting a dominant champion (Jones has already defended the title 4 times which places him in a 3 way tie for 2nd most defenses with Chuck Lidell and Frank Shamrock and only behind Tito Ortiz with 5 defenses **Thanks Wikipedia**).

Moving up in weight to defeat a huge dominant champion will clearly make Anderson the GOAT.

techks · 10-21-2012, 10:21 PM

I don't think he would need GSP to cement himself as greater than Fedor as long as he beats Johnny Bones. Though many times we get too caught up who's the "best" we really miss out to a degree just how great these legends are.

View Poll Results: Who is MMA's GOAT?
Clearly Fedor	30	39.47%
Slight edge to Fedor	14	18.42%
Too close for a definitive call	6	7.89%
Slight edge to Anderson	9	11.84%
Clearly Anderson	17	22.37%
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rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: dunno..where am i??? Posts: 6,721 vCash: 1000	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? fedor is the greatest but silva is the better fighter. if silva beats jones he takes the top spot.
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10-21-2012, 03:30 AM	#51
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Johnstown No Longer Nefarious East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Johnstown PA Posts: 11,823 vCash: 500	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? For the guys who pick Fedor.....what if Anderson beats GSP, and than beats Bones Jones....would you still pick Fedor then?
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10-21-2012, 07:13 AM	#54
The Spider boogidy boogidy boogidy East Side Guru Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 9,522 vCash: 454	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? Voted 'Slight edge to Anderson'. Because I'm realistic enough to admit that it's a close call.
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Hoshi J. Lannister UD Epic Bear ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lancs UK Posts: 828 vCash: 2419	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? Fedor by a big margin. Fedor, Nogueira and GSP all have much better resumes.
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Rob_Floyd Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: May 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 4,979 vCash: 847	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? Outside of the last minute position reversal, Herring was far from a hard fight for Fedor. That was one of Fedor's best beatdowns.
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techks ATG list Killah! East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ......Bit stalkerish to ask where I live don't ya think? Posts: 10,897 vCash: 85	Re: Anderson vs Fedor - who is the GOAT? I don't think he would need GSP to cement himself as greater than Fedor as long as he beats Johnny Bones. Though many times we get too caught up who's the "best" we really miss out to a degree just how great these legends are.
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