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Old 10-22-2012, 08:21 PM   #1
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Default How do boxers move up in weight?

Old school vs new school...what are the typical methods. I know Ali barely used weights, usually for core exercises, but never for compounds lifts, but he had one of the most chisseled bodies on any boxer I've ever seen (I can't find it but there was a photo of him faced away from the camera, and the size and shape of his triceps, without lifting, was something to behold)

How do boxer put that exact weightage on, in all the right places, keeping their power the best way possible? That is to say do they lift and train for power (over endurance,strength, atrophy)...do they simply place a weight on top of them, wrap it to their body?

What are the traditional and new school methods?
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:30 PM   #2
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They get older. When your young it is easier to matain a low sometimes unnaturaly low weight. As you get older your matablalism slows down. Making it harder to shed the pounds that you used to when you were younger.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:38 PM   #3
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Your body gets bigger, your bones gain density. So you move up to accommodate that.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:43 PM   #4
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Naturally...Sometimes they are already that weight naturally at walking around weight, they just boil down to make a certain weight class to get easier/more winnable fights.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:44 PM   #5
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They get older. When your young it is easier to matain a low sometimes unnaturaly low weight. As you get older your matablalism slows down. Making it harder to shed the pounds that you used to when you were younger.

This Just think of the record a guy like Roberto Duran would have had if he could have stayed at Lightweight for his entire career and not have had to move up to super middleweight by career's end.
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:32 AM   #6
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How about when guys move between 140 and 147

For the 140 they tend to dehydrate themselves, how about from 140 to 147 though? And its a permenant shift...7 pounds isn't something they gain over a long time, but have to within say a 6 month period. If they wanted to add that as muscle, how would they do that with plyo/calesthetics? Or would they just use compound lifts?


Also how would bone density increase so dramatically without weight lifting?
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:34 AM   #7
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Gaining weight is more about power to speed ratio..
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:26 AM   #8
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How about when guys move between 140 and 147

For the 140 they tend to dehydrate themselves, how about from 140 to 147 though? And its a permenant shift...7 pounds isn't something they gain over a long time, but have to within say a 6 month period. If they wanted to add that as muscle, how would they do that with plyo/calesthetics? Or would they just use compound lifts?


Also how would bone density increase so dramatically without weight lifting?
They're just dropping less weight, a 147 guy is probably coming down from 160-165. Less muscle lost and less dehydration.
Any impact builds bone density, running, plyos etc.
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Gaining weight is more about power to speed ratio..
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:36 AM   #10
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They used peds...at least that's what they say about PAC.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:41 AM   #11
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McDonalds.

Most fighters fight in weight classes below their walk around weight


Most 140 fighters weigh 152 and above normally out of training
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:35 PM   #12
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Gaining weight is more about power to speed ratio..
That's the dilemma and my question I guess. Because the way I look at it if they go up in weight using say weight balls/plyo...they will have to do it slowly, but at the end of the day they are pushing around their bodyweight...like dips/pushups...it contributes to your punching power/snapping motion

The other way is compound lifts for STRENGTH...but lifting weights isn't going to help with pushing your own bodyweight around as efficiently as plyo...it isn't a snapping motion so there's less transferrence to your punching power.

Wondering how guys typically do this and what the bset way to do it is. So far it just seems like guys are playing with hydration/not training/their 'natural' weight
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:53 PM   #13
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A lot of boxers just starve themselves to get to a specific weight...Thomas Hearns and Jeff Fenech come to mind. Hearns was a big, big welter, and he had to really starve himself to make weight.

Once he decided to move up to 154, he really just ate more naturally and didn't starve his body, and did some weight training. (Probably for conditioning/strength, rather than gaining weight.)

As an amateur, my trainer was always trying to get my weight as low as possible, so that I'd be big for my weight class.

Guys like Duran really just ate themselves into a new weight class. He may have been in shape, but he was very smooth looking compared to his lightweight self, and clearly carrying a few extra unneeded pounds.

These days, of course weight training and diet plays a big part in gaining quality weight.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:01 PM   #14
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they eat contaminated meat.

and test positive for peds.
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Old 10-23-2012, 04:09 PM   #15
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they eat contaminated meat.

and test positive for peds.
LOL. i need to eat those contaminated meat.
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