Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach

OMGWTF · 10-22-2012, 12:47 PM

So hes not slow, has a range advantage, and a height advantage, and a weight advantage, and mixes up coming forward imposing his jab cross on me or going back when I try to come forward again imposing his jab cross and hook on me.

How do I out box this guy? What are my best options?

What combos do you recommend?

What punches should I use on the inside?

How do I get inside safely?

OMGWTF · 10-22-2012, 12:51 PM

Im an orthodox fighter btw

MagnaNasakki · 10-22-2012, 01:38 PM

Throw the right hand, son!

No, seriously. The right hand is such a great punch in this situation. If you drive with your straight punches, and step with your jab, you can quite literally come in punching.

When he comes in behind his jab, take your head off center and throw the right hand to the body. If he defends against it by backing away from it, congratulations; He's going to have trouble coming forward if you are sharp with that counter. Also try coming forward aggressively with a slip left and rip the left hook. These movements need to happen VERY close together.

The best way to deal with a faster fighter is to time his favorite punches, and the best way to handle a taller fighter is punishing body shot counters and punching over the top of his punches.

When you get inside, dig the double hooks, body and head. When he moves his body to defend his right side, the overhand right should open up. When you pin him on the ropes, move your head and aggressively move around him, working both sides of his ribs with both hands. If he starts to lower himself, find the right uppercut.

Facing a taller guy is daunting because the solution isn't easy, but if you box with your mind, slow the pace down a bit, and turn his advantages in on themselves, it can be VERY frustrating. The key is to take his favorite moves away from him!

OMGWTF · 10-22-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

Throw the right hand, son!

No, seriously. The right hand is such a great punch in this situation. If you drive with your straight punches, and step with your jab, you can quite literally come in punching.

When he comes in behind his jab, take your head off center and throw the right hand to the body. If he defends against it by backing away from it, congratulations; He's going to have trouble coming forward if you are sharp with that counter. Also try coming forward aggressively with a slip left and rip the left hook. These movements need to happen VERY close together.

The best way to deal with a faster fighter is to time his favorite punches, and the best way to handle a taller fighter is punishing body shot counters and punching over the top of his punches.

When you get inside, dig the double hooks, body and head. When he moves his body to defend his right side, the overhand right should open up. When you pin him on the ropes, move your head and aggressively move around him, working both sides of his ribs with both hands. If he starts to lower himself, find the right uppercut.

Facing a taller guy is daunting because the solution isn't easy, but if you box with your mind, slow the pace down a bit, and turn his advantages in on themselves, it can be VERY frustrating. The key is to take his favorite moves away from him!

Brilliant answer thanks mate!

MagnaNasakki · 10-22-2012, 01:48 PM

Also...

Unless he's very mature and well schooled already, he's going to start loading up on the straight left when you take away his jab. If you find yourself seeing that shot coming, wait for him to load the shot, then duck and throw an overhand right.

It'll land, and it'll hurt, a lot. If you are countering his two best punches reliably, again, unless he's very mature and well schooled, he's going to start depleting mentally very, very rapidly.

OMGWTF · 10-22-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

Also...

Unless he's very mature and well schooled already, he's going to start loading up on the straight left when you take away his jab. If you find yourself seeing that shot coming, wait for him to load the shot, then duck and throw an overhand right.

It'll land, and it'll hurt, a lot. If you are countering his two best punches reliably, again, unless he's very mature and well schooled, he's going to start depleting mentally very, very rapidly.

Sweet I love the overhand right cant wait to use it on him! Thanks again mate! That is a seriously cool counter!

MagnaNasakki · 10-22-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OMGWTF

Sweet I love the overhand right cant wait to use it on him! Thanks again mate! That is a seriously cool counter!

Man, I love me some good counter punching.

PM me if you'd ever like more. I have a million.

OMGWTF · 10-22-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

Man, I love me some good counter punching.

PM me if you'd ever like more. I have a million.

I will thanks a million mate!

cambay411 · 10-22-2012, 02:14 PM

Magna has a pretty good response. Use head movement and rip his body up. Dont forget to work your jab. He has a longer reach so he can hit you before you get in range to hit him so head movement is key.

Bogotazo · 10-22-2012, 08:02 PM

...You don't happen to be sparring in a gym in New York would you? Had the same problems. Got busted up real good.

Speechless · 10-22-2012, 10:52 PM

Yeah I agree, overhand right works out well for me, especially since i'm shorter 5'8 than many of my sparring partners. Had a lot of success using the overhand right against a 6 ft southpaw.

Shake · 10-24-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

Man, I love me some good counter punching.

PM me if you'd ever like more. I have a million.

I could listen to this all day.

ROACH · 10-24-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MagnaNasakki

Also...

Unless he's very mature and well schooled already, he's going to start loading up on the straight left when you take away his jab. If you find yourself seeing that shot coming, wait for him to load the shot, then duck and throw an overhand right.

It'll land, and it'll hurt, a lot. If you are countering his two best punches reliably, again, unless he's very mature and well schooled, he's going to start depleting mentally very, very rapidly.

Let him know about the Southpaw left uppercut too.

nvs · 10-24-2012, 03:37 PM

Was watching Margaritos sparring session from youtube where Doug Fischer notes that Sergio Mora switching stances has no effect on Margarito cause of the amount of pressure he applies.

That prolly dont fall under the "outboxing category tho.

10-22-2012, 12:47 PM	#1
OMGWTF Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 380 vCash: 535	Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach So hes not slow, has a range advantage, and a height advantage, and a weight advantage, and mixes up coming forward imposing his jab cross on me or going back when I try to come forward again imposing his jab cross and hook on me. How do I out box this guy? What are my best options? What combos do you recommend? What punches should I use on the inside? How do I get inside safely?
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10-22-2012, 12:51 PM	#2
OMGWTF Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 380 vCash: 535	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Im an orthodox fighter btw
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10-22-2012, 01:38 PM	#3
MagnaNasakki Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,819 vCash: 1000	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Throw the right hand, son! No, seriously. The right hand is such a great punch in this situation. If you drive with your straight punches, and step with your jab, you can quite literally come in punching. When he comes in behind his jab, take your head off center and throw the right hand to the body. If he defends against it by backing away from it, congratulations; He's going to have trouble coming forward if you are sharp with that counter. Also try coming forward aggressively with a slip left and rip the left hook. These movements need to happen VERY close together. The best way to deal with a faster fighter is to time his favorite punches, and the best way to handle a taller fighter is punishing body shot counters and punching over the top of his punches. When you get inside, dig the double hooks, body and head. When he moves his body to defend his right side, the overhand right should open up. When you pin him on the ropes, move your head and aggressively move around him, working both sides of his ribs with both hands. If he starts to lower himself, find the right uppercut. Facing a taller guy is daunting because the solution isn't easy, but if you box with your mind, slow the pace down a bit, and turn his advantages in on themselves, it can be VERY frustrating. The key is to take his favorite moves away from him!
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10-22-2012, 01:48 PM	#5
MagnaNasakki Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,819 vCash: 1000	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Also... Unless he's very mature and well schooled already, he's going to start loading up on the straight left when you take away his jab. If you find yourself seeing that shot coming, wait for him to load the shot, then duck and throw an overhand right. It'll land, and it'll hurt, a lot. If you are countering his two best punches reliably, again, unless he's very mature and well schooled, he's going to start depleting mentally very, very rapidly.
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10-22-2012, 02:14 PM	#9
cambay411 newbie Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 48 vCash: 500	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Magna has a pretty good response. Use head movement and rip his body up. Dont forget to work your jab. He has a longer reach so he can hit you before you get in range to hit him so head movement is key.
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10-22-2012, 08:02 PM	#10
Bogotazo Amateur East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 17,473 vCash: 294	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach ...You don't happen to be sparring in a gym in New York would you? Had the same problems. Got busted up real good.
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10-22-2012, 10:52 PM	#11
Speechless Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 536 vCash: 500	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Yeah I agree, overhand right works out well for me, especially since i'm shorter 5'8 than many of my sparring partners. Had a lot of success using the overhand right against a 6 ft southpaw.
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10-24-2012, 03:37 PM	#14
nvs Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,131 vCash: 400	Re: Im having trouble sparring a southpaw who has long reach Was watching Margaritos sparring session from youtube where Doug Fischer notes that Sergio Mora switching stances has no effect on Margarito cause of the amount of pressure he applies. That prolly dont fall under the "outboxing category tho.
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