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Old 10-25-2012, 02:10 PM   #16
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Quite an astounding performance by Joe against a better version of Roy Jones Jr than people seem to think. Jones Jr had beat Felix Trinidad, who had beaten William Joppy and Ricardo Mayorga, all top class wins, and his body was more acclimated to 175. He didn't have to cut so much weight which is only reason Tarver beat him. And Calzaghe did it better.

One of the best performances of the last 30 years? Why stop there? I think it was maybe an ATG performance, up there with Ali's against Foreman.
This is just flat-out pathetic...So now this shot to shit version of Roy was somehow prime when he faced Joe??? And when did Tito become such a big factor at 168??? Tito hasnt done jack shit above 160 so how is that a big win for Roy???

You're trying to hard!
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:13 PM   #17
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Didn't Roy get blasted out in 1 round by Green soon after? He was clearly past it.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:13 PM   #18
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Shut the **** up
Hey pal, did you bet all that vcash on Jones? How come so many fighters predicted that Roy would win this fight and then after the event you all want to downgrade the victory? We can all be wise after the event, who did you predict to win the fight before hand?
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:13 PM   #19
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Didn't Floyd Mayweather almost get KO'd by shot Mosley? Was that no less of a masterclass?
Mosley ain't as shot as Jones jr who last victory was against a shot trinidad out of retirement. Plus Floyd didn't fall on his ass.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:15 PM   #20
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It was a wonderful performance. So was Danny Green's and Lbedev's KO of Jones. All three of them will go down as ATG's.
Jones was past prime by then and had no business travelling abroad like that and taking on a cruiserweight with the power of Danny Green, there was always a chance in that fight that roys weak punch resistance would be exposed.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:18 PM   #21
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Pathetic, I'm hardly a jones supporter and joe was fighting a mere ghost a ghost that dropped him like a sack of rotten potatoes in the first round lol! However, joe did what he needed to do and I can't knock him for winning the fight but that first post is just delusional pure and simple.
C'mon pal, that was an illegal forearm and you know it. the fact that Calzaghe recovered from that foul makes it an even better win. How many times has Jones been knocked down in his career and how many times has he actually showed the balls to get up off the canvas and actually win?
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it was a wonderful performance. So was danny green's and lbedev's ko of jones. All three of them will go down as atg's.
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Jones was past prime by then and had no business travelling abroad like that and taking on a cruiserweight with the power of Danny Green, there was always a chance in that fight that roys weak punch resistance would be exposed.
he wasn't past prime when he fought Joe then??
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:20 PM   #24
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Mosley ain't as shot as Jones jr who last victory was against a shot trinidad out of retirement. Plus Floyd didn't fall on his ass.
Huh? Mosley went life and death with "The Latin Snake" Sergio Mora after his fight with Floyd and got a draw. He basically ran from Manny for 12 rounds. He got destroyed by Canelo.

Jones Jr went on to beat Glen Johnson conquer Omar Sheika and the great American SMW hope Jeff Lacy.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:20 PM   #25
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Definitely, it puts performances like Starling-Honeyghan, Mayweather-Corrales, Pacquiao-Barrera 1, Bowe-Holyfield 1, Whitaker-Chavez/Ramirez 2/McGirt 2, McGirt-Brown, Watson-Benn, Jones-Toney.....all to shame.

None of those guys have anything on a 2008 version of Roy Jones Jr.
Think your missing the point pal, all those wins were performances where the victor was given huge credit. My opening post stayed 'underated performances'.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:21 PM   #26
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he wasn't past prime when he fought Joe then??
Joe beat what was left out of him. Just like Joe beat the HOF potential out of Lacy. But at the point Joe fought him, Jones Jr wasn't as past it as people think.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:23 PM   #27
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I'd say its among the best, just below Berbick's "masterclass" over Ali.
Nothing remotely like the ali v berbick fight. After Ali lost to Berbick, did he go out in his next 2 fights and put on 2 absolute exhibitions over 2 world rated fighters like Jones did. Quit clutching at straws, from now on I won't even be responding to troll posts like this.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:25 PM   #28
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Masterclass. Didn't his ass got dropped in the first round by a shot to hell jones?
Was an illegal forearm and that just adds to the quality of Calzaghe performance and the elite recovery powers shown.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:27 PM   #29
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Was Joe Calzaghe's masterclass versus Roy Jones the most underated boxing performance of the past 30 years. If you remember correctly, Roy had now adapted his body back to 175 and was back on a good winning streak, dismantling Trinidad who had destroyed Mayorga and William Joppy as he cruised through the weight divisions. The fight was only Calzaghe's 2nd at the weight and he travelled to america despite the likes of Hopkins, Lennox Lewis, Tarver, and Johnson all predicting that Jones would beat him. What made the performance even more amazing imo was that Calzaghe recovered from a brutal illegal forearm in the 1st round, only to get up and completely bamboozle Jones with superb lateral movement and delicious 4 and 5 piece combinations throughout. What makes the win even better in my eyes is that after the fight, Roy then went on to produce a clinical exhibition V Jeff Lacy and then gave his own virtuoso masterclass versus Glen Johnson conqueror Omar Sheika proving that he still had plenty left in the tank. Your thoughts please?
In the anals of masterclassery, I'd place it somewhere between the masterclass Rocky gave Thunderlips and the masterclass Axl Rose gave Tommy Hilfiger. Masterclass.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:29 PM   #30
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This is quite sad when you have to boost up a shot fighter as a quality win...Says a lot about Calzaghe resume IMO.
Nonsense, quit the denial pal and give credit where credit is due. Calzaghe was virtually shot himself with the most brittle hands in boxing and he still moved up weights and was prepared to travel half way round the world to make the fight. After the corrupt in officiating in the Hopkins fight, you could have forgiven Calzaghe for demanding the fight in Wales and he nearly got screwed by the referee again when he allowed Jones to use his forearms as a weapon.
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