Andre Ward's next opponent

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Originally Posted by FilipMNE

Stop reading there world class SMW Eubank??? at the time of Joe fight didnt beat decent fighter in who knows how long before Joe fight and wasnt even training for SMW fight if i remember right...

I bet you rate Wards win over Kessler...? Read on you will enjoy

Calzaghes win over Eubank/Wards win over Kessler

It was Wards 21st fight, Ward was 25
It was Calzaghes 23rd fight, Calzaghe was 25

Ward won at home
Calzaghe won away

When Ward beat Kessler, Kessler was 42-1-0
When Calzaghe beat Eubank, Eubank was 45-2-2

Kessler was 31
Eubank was 31

Kessler was 8-1 in world title fights
Eubank was 17-2-2 in world title fights

It was just under 3 years since Kessler beat a world rated opponent
It was just under 3 years since Eubank beat a world rated opponent

Kessler had only fought 3 completed rounds in 1 fight in a year before fighting Ward
Eubank had only fought 7 completed rounds in 2 fights in a year before fighting Calzaghe

Kesslers only loss was clear
Eubanks 2 losses - first was very close (debateable) the second was a SD, to the same fighter.

Kessler was favourite to win.
100 years of Boxing News claims Calzaghe was underdog, I have read Calzaghe was underdog but some posters claim he was betting favourite, though.
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Notes Eubank was a strong favourite, but dont know where the site got its info.

Both Ward and Calzaghe had dominant performances with Calzaghe scoring 2 KDs.

After the loss Kessler beat undefeated WBC champ Froch
After the loss Eubank fought WBO CW champ Thompson and lost a close decision scoring a KD. Eubank fought a return with the bigger Thompson and lost on injury when ahead. Thompson was a CW and the only fighter to have beaten D Haye at CW.

I have read how people on ESB say Eubank was shot so -
How far past prime was Eubank to you then?
Eubank had lost a close decision to Collins, that many thought he won, had a couple of tune ups and rematched Collins to a SD, had a couple of tune ups and lost clearly to underdog Calzaghe. After that loss Eubank went up to CW and challenged world champ Thompson losing a very close decision and then rematched Thompson losing on injury when ahead. Thats Thompson who years later past his best KOd D Haye.
Consider Eubank only had 2 losses to one fighter when he fought Calzaghe, the second by SD to a world champ and was 31 then went on to challenge a big CW flooring him etc, how past his prime do YOU think he was?
Remember Kessler is Wards big win and was the same age as Eubank here and had around the same amount of fights, so is Kessler shot as well, because Kessler has a serious eye problems and was an unwell double vision suffering fighter who has been inactive for a while now due to his injury


Remember when you make silly comments about losses was G Johnson considered past his prime when years ago after losing to Hopkins he went 7-9-2 including the Hopkins loss

[Shrewd Operator]

Originally Posted by pejevan

Are there no other names there?

I thought that the 168 is so good as most idiots here claim?

Its not so much that its littered with top pound 4 pound fighters, cause its not..

Its more thats there a cluster of fighters all fighting at a world class level producing some competitive fights..

Also everyone fights eachother and theres no primadonnas claiming that there too much of a draw to and this that and the other..

[booradley]

Originally Posted by Shrewd Operator

Its not so much that its littered with top pound 4 pound fighters, cause its not..

Its more thats there a cluster of fighters all fighting at a world class level producing some competitive fights..

Also everyone fights eachother and theres no primadonnas claiming that there too much of a draw to and this that and the other..

This

[vast]

Originally Posted by Vidic

Why drain himself? If anything, Martinez is looking for big fights he should move up, instead of trying to fight WW's.

martinez is 37 and well past the point of moving up anymore. he has already done that. ward would have to move down but that fight isn't happening. there are some intriguing MW fights out there, and sergio could easily spend the rest of his career making those fights.

[pejevan]

Originally Posted by Scar

Heartbreaking avatar, at least it's good to know Pacquiao finally hugged you for your overemotional keyboard efforts. Choke on a McNugget already, midget.

That was a sick, dying kid who asked Pac to fight Fairy gayweirder.

Pac said Fraud is on perenial vacation.

[Box702]

Originally Posted by Vidic

Why drain himself? If anything, Martinez is looking for big fights he should move up, instead of trying to fight WW's.

Yeah why doesn't Sergio fight the klitschko brothers while he's at it too.Some logic you got.He's a natural 154lb who can't even make the 160lb mark & at middleweight because guys his size won't fight him(cotto,floyd,canelo).