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Old 10-29-2012, 02:51 PM   #5551
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use your noggin. We know which fighters from this area will be remembered as an ATG. We're here living in it.

No they haven't been declared it cos there still fighting. But we all know which ones will.

Examples please. Don't just say it which boxer today has beaten a prime ATG
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:53 PM   #5552
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Examples please. Don't just say it which boxer today has beaten a prime ATG

Too many to mention.
Barrera, Morales, Pac, Jones, Trinidad, and on and on and on
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:54 PM   #5553
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i agree. im not accusing him.

The point of the thread is: Are there any examples of other boxers that have managed to go through 5 divisions at floyds level, without ever facing a prime ATG.

I'm not accusing, I'm asking if there are any other examples.
ATGs are being judged throughout their career as a whole. Whole as in their complete career. You can assume someone will become ATG. Keyword assume.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:54 PM   #5554
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:55 PM   #5555
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Too many to mention.
Barrera, Morales, Pac, Jones, Trinidad, and on and on and on
Bull ****. examples. I don't need a lot I just need one. Judging by the list u just provided than FLoyd has as well then.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:59 PM   #5556
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Floyd has a good resume, but when compared to somebody like Pac that was jumping up in weight... Doesn't compare. Floyd actually used to fight really good competition, but last 5 years or so has really cherry picked. Makes Hatton move up, makes Marquez move up almost 2 weight classes, fights an older Mosley but he was coming off a good win (so did Pac though), fights Ortiz who didn't deserve it, etc.
I'm thinking you will be able to add guys like Broner to your list pretty soon for those who jump so many divisons but never fight any greats.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:01 PM   #5557
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ATGs are being judged throughout their career as a whole. Whole as in their complete career. You can assume someone will become ATG. Keyword assume.

ok fine, you don't have the ability to figure out who the ATG's are from our era,

you don't have to play
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:02 PM   #5558
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This thread is just a typical lame attempt to discredit Floyd's resume which in reality you can switch Floyd to ANY boxer's name instead and they will ALL FAIL. Because Again, i can't emphasis enough. There is no such thing to be "IN PRIME" and Already an ATG. Virtually impossible bc ATG is judged by their career as a whole.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Floyd's opposition who he has beaten Prime undefeated fighters to out of prime and in prime opponent. The man has done it all. The only thing that DQed him as being a GOAT is that his pro career doesn't consist of 100+ fights.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:02 PM   #5559
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Bull ****. examples. I don't need a lot I just need one. Judging by the list u just provided than FLoyd has as well then.

you can't play because you don;t know which fighters are going to be ATG's.
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ok fine, you don't have the ability to figure out who the ATG's are from our era,

you don't have to play
No one has the ability to figure that out. As soon as one person names one example, it would be bull****. If you don't believe me just name one.
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This thread is just a typical lame attempt to discredit Floyd's resume which in reality you can switch Floyd to ANY boxer's name instead and they will ALL FAIL. Because Again, i can't emphasis enough. There is no such thing to be "IN PRIME" and Already an ATG. Virtually impossible bc ATG is judged by their career as a whole.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with Floyd's opposition who he has beaten Prime undefeated fighters to out of prime and in prime opponent. The man has done it all. They only that DQed him as being a GOAT is that his pro career doesn't consist of 100+ fights.



yes that's why he's not the GOAT. Nothing to do with the fact he's never fought a prime ATG, let alone beat one.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #5562
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No one has the ability to figure that out. As soon as one person names one example, it would be bull****. If you don't believe me just name one.

your so annoying.

Lennox Lewis is an ATG. his prime was 95 to 2000.
Mosley s ATG, his prime was at lightweight
Floyd is an ATG. his prime is at Super feather


there are more but you only wanted one. I gave you three
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Kostya Tzyu is one.
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yes that's why he's not the GOAT. Nothing to do with the fact he's never fought a prime ATG, let alone beat one.
Then who has? I'm still waiting. Bc that list of boxers that u threw out a few minutes ago, Floyd has achieved everything they did.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:08 PM   #5565
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your so annoying.

Lennox Lewis is an ATG. his prime was 95 to 2000.
Mosley s ATG, his prime was at lightweight
Floyd is an ATG. his prime is at Super feather


there are more but you only wanted one. I gave you three
No. Give me who fought who that is "prime ATG"
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