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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:13 PM   #42376
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Trinidad is an ATG, his prime was at Welter.

Oscar fought him during his prime.

So that's one of Oscars.
Hopkins.

Don't say vs Jones, most say they were green during their bout at 160.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:17 PM   #42377
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Hopkins.

Don't say vs Jones, most say they were green during their bout at 160.

yes, that's a good one actually

Although Jones is Borderline. Plus i'd say Calzaghe is borderline too.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:18 PM   #42378
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Bull****. Neither trinidad or Oscar was considered as ATGs when they fought each other. Give me ONE source they talked about them as ATGs leading up to their fight.

we're looking back at there careers now. The career doesn't have to be over to know they are going to be an ATG.

Listen, you obviously can't figure this out, so i reccomend you move on before you pop a brain cell.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:19 PM   #42379
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yes, that's a good one actually

Although Jones is Borderline. Plus i'd say Calzaghe is borderline too.
John. Answer me this how can Trinidad be considered as an ATG when he fought Oscar when the only guys on his resumes were Whitker and Camacho who were both way out of prime? now how is ur example not bull****?
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:19 PM   #42380
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yes, that's a good one actually

Although Jones is Borderline. Plus i'd say Calzaghe is borderline too.
Not sure what point youre even trying to prove with this thread

Beating a prime ATG doesn't make you an ATG, anyways. Resume needs to be judged as a whole.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:20 PM   #42381
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Floyd has an opportunity to fight an ATG who is at least close to his prime, so it may very well happen in the near future.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:21 PM   #42382
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we're looking back at there careers now. The career doesn't have to be over to know they are going to be an ATG.

Listen, you obviously can't figure this out, so i reccomend you move on before you pop a brain cell.

You need some brain cells. You don't even know wtf are you on about.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #42383
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Not sure what point youre even trying to prove with this thread

Beating a prime ATG doesn't make you an ATG, anyways. Resume needs to be judged as a whole.

they don't have to have beaten them. My point is, is floyd the only fighter at his level, thats fought through the amount of weight classes he has, but never hat to face any prime ATG's his whole career.

Or are there others that I can't think of.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:25 PM   #42384
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John, I do want to hear your Answer on how can Trinidad be considered as an ATG when he fought Oscar when the only guys on his resumes were Whitker and Camacho who were both way out of prime? now how is ur example not bull****?
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:26 PM   #42385
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John. Answer me this how can Trinidad be considered as an ATG when he fought Oscar when the only guys on his resumes were Whitker and Camacho who were both way out of prime? now how is ur example not bull****?

yes but knowng what we know now. He was a prime ATG. I see what your saying. But floyd has basically had his career now, he's past his prime so everything that happens now is mute. We're looking back.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:28 PM   #42386
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John, I do want to hear your Answer on how can Trinidad be considered as an ATG when he fought Oscar when the only guys on his resumes were Whitker and Camacho who were both way out of prime? now how is ur example not bull****?

THis is the last time i'll explain it. I'm not saying they have to have been thoughto of as an ATG the day they fought.

But looking back now, we know which fighters were ATG and we know when there primes were.

We know Trinidad is an ATG, and we know his prime was at 147 - 154.

They weren't calling him an ATG when he was fighting Oscar but thats not what i'm asking.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:29 PM   #42387
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I disagree with people saying there were never options.

I'd say he had chances with Kosta, Manny, Sergio, but thats probably it.

And this isn't a thread about why those fights didnt happen
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:30 PM   #42388
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definetly one theory. Are there any other fighters at his level that have fought in as many weight classes, ranked as high, yet never had to fight a Prime ATG?
since your trying hard at beeing serious on this,heres my take. Floyd had a **** load of skillz coming up. All his,way up to DLH he owned good fighters. After DLH he just cash in on all the hate and he,was calling the shot. So would you jump off your house for 1 million or would you jump of your car for the same money. It sucks very much I agree that in this diva generation we could not get the best matchup we could. Have fun getting ***** at and love.

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Old 10-29-2012, 02:30 PM   #42389
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yes but knowng what we know now. He was a prime ATG. I see what your saying. But floyd has basically had his career now, he's past his prime so everything that happens now is mute. We're looking back.

I know u see what i'm saying, you just didn't think this thread through. It is a sad attempt to discredit Floyd.

If you think Trinidad by him beating up some past prime = ATG then you need some serious help.

Floyd was fighting undefeated in prime dude in Corrales which is much tougher achievement than beating up past prime. If anything Floyd deserves more credit.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:34 PM   #42390
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since your trying hard at beeing serious on this,heres my take. Floyd had a **** load of skillz coming up. All his,way up to DLH he owned good fighters. After DLH he just cash in on all the hate and he,was calling the shot. So would you jump off your house for 1 million or would you jump of your car for the same money. It sucks very much I agree that in this diva generation we could not get the best matchup we could. Have fun getting ***** at and love.

Gotta hate negociation

I agree with all you said.

I don't think any one has played it as well as floyd.

And if i could have had anyone's careers in Boxing id' pick floyd.

Guy will probably retire with alot of money and his health in tact. With every sucking his nuts about how good he is.
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