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Old 10-29-2012, 07:25 PM   #5671
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

A prime fighter who would go on to become ATG.

How is this hard to understand?

I'd say the best opportunity other than Pacman would have been Mosley after he had beaten Hatton. But he retired and Mosley vs Cotto happened.

I do think he gets a tad too much stick but if he had fought Pacquiao in 09/10 only a fool could discredit him.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:25 PM   #5672
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

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Corrales was elite, undefeated, and prime.
Castillo was an elite lineal champion in his prime.
Baldomir was a lineal champion in his prime, although not elite.
Hatton was undefeated and in his prime, although not at his elite weight.
Cotto was an elite fighter, although not at his prime.

Name the prime ATG's that were at his weight who he should have fought. Please, go on... Enlighten us.


Castillo was his best win, and who did Corrales beat to be elite?

True there no ATG in his weight or time at the weight, but there was a Elite fighter in his prime in 08/09 Pacman but Floyd did not want to face him.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:28 PM   #5673
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Serious question.

Guys like the Klitchko's have to stick to there weight class, so can only fight who's available.

What I want to know is. How has Floyd managed to rise 5 weight Classes, earn a **** load of money, be recognised as the number 1 fighter in the sport. Yet manage to avoid facing a Prime ATG, and arguably manage to avoid fighting any prime 1st ballot HOF'ers his whole career.

Guys been around 16 years!!!

Are there any other fighters who've managed to fight through so many weight classes, and never had to fight one prime HOF'er or ATG.

Or is Floyd a one off?

Pac only fought one and he went through more weightclasses than Floyd.

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Old 10-29-2012, 07:33 PM   #5674
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PAcman KO **********

********** ducked Pacman

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Delusional guy
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:34 PM   #5675
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********** ducked prime cotto, margarito, paul williams, kosta tysu, manny Pacquiao, hatton at 140, mosley, trinidad, oscar de la, andre berto, timothy bradley, joshua clottey, marquez at 130, devon alexander.

He would have 5 losses if he fought those fighters
Which 5 beat him?

Your chatting absolute ****
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:34 PM   #5676
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

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A prime fighter who would go on to become ATG.

How is this hard to understand?

I'd say the best opportunity other than Pacman would have been Mosley after he had beaten Hatton. But he retired and Mosley vs Cotto happened.

I do think he gets a tad too much stick but if he had fought Pacquiao in 09/10 only a fool could discredit him.
U forgot + in prime. If that is the case then Floyd has beaten plenty of ATGs. Oscar, Shane, JMM, possibly Corrales and Castillo but they are definitely Hofers.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:43 PM   #5677
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Castillo was his best win, and who did Corrales beat to be elite?

True there no ATG in his weight or time at the weight, but there was a Elite fighter in his prime in 08/09 Pacman but Floyd did not want to face him.
Corrales, at the end of 2000, was so feared and respected that the RING magazine actually elevated him above Mayweather on the Pound for Pound List. Entering their fight, Corrales was #5 and Floyd dropped to #8 after a sub par 2000 calendar year.

Corrales beat Garcia, Gainer, and Manfredy going into the Mayweather fight.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:44 PM   #5678
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U forgot + in prime. If that is the case then Floyd has beaten plenty of ATGs. Oscar, Shane, JMM, possibly Corrales and Castillo but they are definitely Hofers.
This. Genaro is at the least a HOF, and likely ATG 130 pounder.

Plus, it seems Gatti has a good chance of getting into the HOF eventually...
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:50 PM   #5679
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Marciano-

"He fought an OLD Louis"

"Fought a green/old (I heard both) Archie Moore even though Archie just beat an ATG in Bobo Olson and goes on to win credible opponents"

"Retired early at 32, would have taken losses if he continued"

Joe Calzaghe

"Ducked Chad Dawson", ****ing Chad Dawson

"Avoided American fighters for most of his life"

Then he goes to America

"Fights an old RJJ/Hopkins even though Hopkins became champion after "

"Loses to Ward in 4 "

"JEFF LACY WAS OVERRATED" even though everyone was on his nuts before the Calzaghe fight.

Floyd Pretty Boy Money Mayweather Joy Sinclair

"Avoided Kostya Tsuya, Margacheato and Morales (Even thougH Morales has been doing ALL the avoiding, Paul Williams, prime Cotto "

"Cherry picking even though most to all of his opponents come off wins, at their weight class, top 10 p4p"

"Lost to Castillo 1 when in reality Floyd beat him by a good margin of 115-112"

"Ducking Manny Pacquiao when we all know Arum has been doing the avoiding"

"Ducked Barrera "

Sven Ottke

"Robbed vs Reid"

"Avoided all American opposition"

"Biggest fraud"

"Avoided Joe Calzaghe"

Fact is 172 opponents have TRIED, 172 came up short. GET OVER IT.
No doubt brother. You see how they hating on Tim
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:50 PM   #5680
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This. Genaro is at the least a HOF, and likely ATG 130 pounder.

Plus, it seems Gatti has a good chance of getting into the HOF eventually...
Correct.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:55 PM   #5681
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Corrales, at the end of 2000, was so feared and respected that the RING magazine actually elevated him above Mayweather on the Pound for Pound List. Entering their fight, Corrales was #5 and Floyd dropped to #8 after a sub par 2000 calendar year.

Corrales beat Garcia, Gainer, and Manfredy going into the Mayweather fight.
Corrales was good but not elite.
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Old 10-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #5682
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

Floyd Haters are grasping at straws. At first is that Floyd hasn't fought anyone, then is he hasn't fought a prime fighter, then is he hasn't fought an undefeated prime fighter, then it is he hasn't fought a in prime/hofer, AND NOW is he hasn't fought a in prime ATG.

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Old 10-29-2012, 08:46 PM   #5683
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No doubt brother. You see how they hating on Tim
People always have to find a flaw in their game.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:39 PM   #5684
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Default Re: People just seem to HATE undefeated fighters

its becuase they rarely take the risk of fighting the opponent the fans want to see him fight.
and if it does happen its usually long past its prime so they dont gain any respect there.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:40 PM   #5685
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Default a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

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this is a top 10 of the the greatest jf featherweights according to the RING

first comment

" who WON 8 TITLES in 8 different WEIGHT classes?
NOBODY!
except MANNY PACQUIAO.
hehehehehehehehehehehehe....

that's why they have to make TOP 10 in 1 division just to DESTROY Pacquiao's ACHIEVEMENT.

ALL of you are just BUNCH of HATERS.....
a WIN is a WIN, a LOST is a LOST and a DRAW is a DRAW.. ok?

until NOW!
no ONE can CLOSE or BREAK PACQUIAO's accomplishment in BOXING... ok?

all of you are just NOBODY but a HATERS that you think your TOUGH but your TOUGHNESS can't PROVED inside the RING w/ PAIR and SQUARE.
and your TOUGHNESS shows in a TRAITOR's WAY....

AGREE?
"


most hilarious comment ever
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