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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:09 AM   #42541
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I ain't defending the dude. The OP went to trouble of confirming his nationality just to be able to say in a thread title that a filipino is this and that.
Im defending him, prof...

classic aint filipino tho
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:23 AM   #42542
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Default Re: People just seem to HATE undefeated fighters

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Im not a ***** and i dont use them stupid words, how old are you.

im a boxer and a boxing fan, im not a fanboy.

you are a pathetic idiot
show them tits big boy
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:25 AM   #42543
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

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People are pretty dumb on this thread.

The OP is saying Mayweather did not face any fighters in their prime who went on to be considered ATG.

It's true. Mayweather did not ever face a fighter in their prime who will be considered an ATG.
i.e Marquez, 37 years old when Mayweather fought him. Mayweather made him move up 2 weight classes pretty much. Marquez will be considered an ATG. By that time he was already considered an ATG anyways.


Mayweather's resume is good. He is an ATG, but there are many other fighters i.e Oscar De La Hoya, who has a greater resume, despite Mayweather having zero losses.
Oscar for example has fought greater opposition.

However, if at identical weights with Barrera, Morales, Hamed, Marquez in his prime, Tszyu and all of the other ATG's of this era...Mayweather may as well have them on his resume as we know he would beat them.
No he didn't. He was clearly stating ATG at the time they fought. He may have back-tracked since then, because people have pointed out how absurd that is. But that's what he was saying.

Even if we look at it from the perspective of "went on to become ATGs," it gets even more absurd.

A fighter's resume should be based on how their opponents are viewed at the time, not based on hindsight. I'll give you an example.

Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez - Williams' stock may have dropped substantially in the tail end of his career, but Martinez still gets credit for being 1 of only 2 people who had the ***** to face him when EVERYBODY from 147 to 160 was ducking him like their lives depended on it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:25 AM   #42544
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Nobody hates unbeaten guys simply cuz they unbeaten. It's cuz of sumthin they said, did, or most importantly, didn't do.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:43 AM   #42545
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Hatton fight wasnt a catchweight nor was he coming off a loss. And he fought Hatton at his weight, in which he was formidable and was never even KD at that weight.
I've seen Haton down at 140 but the discussion has sunk so low that I'm not sure who is serious and who is trolling.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:46 AM   #42546
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Floyd Haters are grasping at straws. At first is that Floyd hasn't fought anyone, then is he hasn't fought a prime fighter, then is he hasn't fought an undefeated prime fighter, then it is he hasn't fought a in prime/hofer, AND NOW is he hasn't fought a in prime ATG.
Floyd hasnt fought SRR, SRL, Haggy, Whitty and Duran Duran, so his resume is **** as arum's breath.

oh wait, did you just say prime atg and non-fantasy?
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:23 AM   #42547
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No he didn't. He was clearly stating ATG at the time they fought. He may have back-tracked since then, because people have pointed out how absurd that is. But that's what he was saying.

Even if we look at it from the perspective of "went on to become ATGs," it gets even more absurd.

A fighter's resume should be based on how their opponents are viewed at the time, not based on hindsight. I'll give you an example.

Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez - Williams' stock may have dropped substantially in the tail end of his career, but Martinez still gets credit for being 1 of only 2 people who had the ***** to face him when EVERYBODY from 147 to 160 was ducking him like their lives depended on it.
He backtracked and then try to weasel out by constantly shifting focus points, switching to alts and called for help to try to soften the schooling that i was dishing to him and now disappeared.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:26 AM   #42548
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Admittedly, as with any race, the internet brings out the worst of us.
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:27 AM   #42549
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Floyd hasnt fought SRR, SRL, Haggy, Whitty and Duran Duran, so his resume is **** as arum's breath.

oh wait, did you just say prime atg and non-fantasy?
No i'm talking about in prime jesus!
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Old 10-30-2012, 01:58 AM   #42550
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Default Re: People just seem to HATE undefeated fighters

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undefeated

self-proclaimed greater than Ali

self-proclaimed greater than SRL

supposed to school any fighter in front of him

cleaned up the sport when Pac's name came up

I don't hate undefeated fighters
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:32 AM   #42551
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I have heard this from several Filipino fans, so what? A ton of African Americans I've talked to say Mike Tyson is the GOAT, and a ton of Mexicans I've talked to think JCC and Cesar Chavez are the same person and the greatest boxer to have ever lived. So what?

These are casual boxing fans, who cares what race they are. Why are you bringing it up in your title?
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Old 10-30-2012, 02:42 AM   #42552
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I have heard this from several Filipino fans, so what? A ton of African Americans I've talked to say Mike Tyson is the GOAT, and a ton of Mexicans I've talked to think JCC and Cesar Chavez are the same person and the greatest boxer to have ever lived. So what?

These are casual boxing fans, who cares what race they are. Why are you bringing it up in your title?
Most of those other types of casuals didn't take to the internet en masse and take a massive **** over every boxing forum on the internet. Only one distinct group of morons did that. It would be like if the US had a top 3 finish at the World Cup and America went soccer crazy, and all the Americans took to every soccer forum to proclaim Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey co-GOATs. Everyone would laugh at how utterly stupid this entire group of newbie American fans are. That happened to boxing and it is finally starting to go away.
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:40 AM   #42553
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Most of those other types of casuals didn't take to the internet en masse and take a massive **** over every boxing forum on the internet. Only one distinct group of morons did that. It would be like if the US had a top 3 finish at the World Cup and America went soccer crazy, and all the Americans took to every soccer forum to proclaim Landon Donovan and Clint Dempsey co-GOATs. Everyone would laugh at how utterly stupid this entire group of newbie American fans are. That happened to boxing and it is finally starting to go away.

coz a midget from Asia took the boxing world by storm

deal with it
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:47 AM   #42554
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John Antony has an old leather boot for a brain I'm sure
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Old 10-30-2012, 03:55 AM   #42555
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Default Can somebody try to refute this statement on mayweather

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130: Genaro, Corrales
135: Castillo X2
147: Baldomir, Mosley
154: Cotto

At 4 of his 5 weight classes, he holds completely legit claim as having beaten the then best fighter in the division.


If you are one of the people who think Castillo won the first fight, then for the purpose of this thread count it as 1 victory.

Now, does anybody disagree with the above? Please state why
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