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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
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I used to. 22 13.41%
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:56 AM   #42556
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really shows how stupid some fans are (but that goes for just about any fighter -_-)
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Old 10-30-2012, 04:59 AM   #42557
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i am often left dumbfounded as to why people say he cherrypicks

alot of the people who claim him to be one are the same people saying he ducked kostya , ODLH and Mosley

when it gets cleared up why the fight never eventuated atleast once a week
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:21 AM   #42558
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This thread will be empty because haters cannot argue with the fact.
Mayweather has fought top fighters time and time again and deserves the credit he gets
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:37 AM   #42559
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Oscar at 154, too.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:58 AM   #42560
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His resume is scarily becoming underrated because of the fact that people don't like his personality, or how he acts outside of the ring. Outside of Pacquiao, you will not find many, if any who's resume currently matches or tops Mayweather's (active boxers). People just love to pick wholes. Look what this boxer didn't do after Mayweather beat him, etc. Naive fans.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:58 AM   #42561
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His best wins are Corrales, Castillo, and Cotto as probably his best win. Only reason people say he cherrypicks is because his resume doesn`t have crazy wins with ATGs. Please don`t say that Oscar, Mosley, and Marquez are great wins. None of those three at the time he fought them were anything great. Except maybe Oscar who was on a better level then the other two. He`s a great fighter, but when you look at that resume it`s not really anything special. Someone with his talent could of had more in there.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:05 AM   #42562
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I don`t mind an undefeated record as long as they keep fighting top fighters and continue to be undefeated.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:07 AM   #42563
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Well of course Floyd and Pac will always be dogged unless they fight. As for someone not giving credit where credit is due then they dont know ****. Floyd is ridiculous. For anyone to say Floyd isnt one of the greats then they probably dont watch much boxing.


Sadly, Its already to the point where if they fight now, which ever looses will have the excuse they were past their prime. So I almost dont even care about that fight anymore.


Its kinda like Jones Jr and Hopkins 2. They waited way to long for that, to the point almost no one even cared about it.


Of course its gonna hurt their legacy. Of course they are still greats but to not fight each other to settle once and for all who was the best says something pretty bad about their character as a fighter in my opinion.


We should already be talking about May vs Pac 3, even if one fighter won all 3 fights.


The people who run the boxing world really f'd this all up and consequently they may have messed the sport up as a whole.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:12 AM   #42564
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

How sooo ... he fought prime Hatton!
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:14 AM   #42565
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His best wins are Corrales, Castillo, and Cotto as probably his best win. Only reason people say he cherrypicks is because his resume doesn`t have crazy wins with ATGs. Please don`t say that Oscar, Mosley, and Marquez are great wins. None of those three at the time he fought them were anything great. Except maybe Oscar who was on a better level then the other two. He`s a great fighter, but when you look at that resume it`s not really anything special. Someone with his talent could of had more in there.




Your over looking some good fighters man. Castillo, Manfredy for example. Floyd was 23-24 fighting these dudes in their primes. Besides Pac, Floyd as fought every body and in their primes except De La Hoya.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:20 AM   #42566
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130: Genaro, Corrales
135: Castillo X2
147: Baldomir, Mosley
154: Cotto
using common sense, 2006 Shane KO's the Baldomir Floyd fought and Pac beats the 2010 Shane.

154 cotto loses to sergio.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:24 AM   #42567
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using common sense, 2006 Shane KO's the Baldomir Floyd fought and Pac beats the 2010 Shane.

154 cotto loses to sergio.
Sergio is NOT at 154lbs. In turn, he is not ranked at 154lbs.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:31 AM   #42568
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Sergio is NOT at 154lbs. In turn, he is not ranked at 154lbs.
sergio could have come down as he offered and beat cotto....technically cotto ain't the best at 154 when floyd fought him.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:36 AM   #42569
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sergio could have come down as he offered and beat cotto....technically cotto ain't the best at 154 when floyd fought him.
But he did not come down. He has no claim whatsoever to be the best at 154lbs currently, or when Mayweather beat Cotto. That's like claiming either Mayweather or Pacquiao can still make 140lbs, so lets rank them as the best 2 there. Let's not stop there, Mayweather and Pacquiao are still the best in every division they have previously been in.

It can be argued that given his previous achievements and experience, also given how improved Cotto has been in a lot of areas since he hooked up with Garcia...he is/was the best at 154lbs at the time Mayweather beat him.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:54 AM   #42570
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Castillo and Corrales are way overrated in ESB.

Corrales used his weight to advantage but he really does not have much to his ****nal. He is slow, does not even fight tall.

Kostya has more pedigree than those two, whose actual pedigree is having a round robin among themselves.
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