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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
Yes. 216 81.51%
No. 17 6.42%
I used to. 32 12.08%
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:08 AM   #42646
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sergio could have come down as he offered and beat cotto....technically cotto ain't the best at 154 when floyd fought him.
Would you bet your life that sergio beats Cotto???????. Technicaly what your saying is a stupid ****ing opinion. So technicaly Cotto was the best because he was rated as such.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:09 AM   #42647
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Oh yeah, forgot about Williams, too.

But I do understand the point of the Mayweather fans. He did indeed beat some top people. Number one "rated" people. But that in no way means that they were indeed the the "best" people. A person, who didn't know better, reading the quoted post in the OP would be duped into thinking Mayweather fought and beat the nearest challengers in those higher divisions. And we know that isn't the case at all.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:10 AM   #42648
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See you are not telling the entire story. That is the problem with your argument. When you tell the whole story it shuts you down.

Cotto himself said that Arum never offered him a fight with Mayweather. "Never!"

Mosley was offered a fight with Mayweather two times and he turned both of them down and that is a fact that can be proven. Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd the first time bc Mosley was going after Oscar which is understandable. Mosley had a ****ing tooth ache the second time he was offered yet people don't want to state that.
noo floyd ducked
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:13 AM   #42649
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:14 AM   #42650
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See you are not telling the entire story. That is the problem with your argument. When you tell the whole story it shuts you down.

Cotto himself said that Arum never offered him a fight with Mayweather. "Never!"

Mosley was offered a fight with Mayweather two times and he turned both of them down and that is a fact that can be proven. Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd the first time bc Mosley was going after Oscar which is understandable. Mosley had a ****ing tooth ache the second time he was offered yet people don't want to state that.
I don't get into the whole, why fights didn't happen.
I agree floyd was very avoided before his delahoya fight because he was a very high risk and didnt come with the financial reward you get fighting him now.
And i agree i don't think cotto was keen back then.

But the point is, floyd beat the number one in each division. but he didn't beat the best in each division. And my point is, in all sports, especially boxing, the two can be seperate
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:15 AM   #42651
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you love to spin ****. When one of Manny's opponents is a top p4p guy but not ranked in the division you love to point it out, but when the next guy is ranked high in the division you conveniently forget to mention it.

haters gonna hate.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:16 AM   #42652
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
And that's the thing. Those Sasakul and Ledwaba wins -- even if they were against the best in the division -- mean very little to me compared to his wins against Cotto, Bradley, Marg, etc, who weren't considered the best.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:16 AM   #42653
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
Lehdwaba was never close to being #1 in the division
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:17 AM   #42654
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
This thread isn't about Manny?
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:17 AM   #42655
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floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:18 AM   #42656
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You can't argue with this.
you aint hating no more ?
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:18 AM   #42657
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floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.
Hatton
ODLH
Mosley
Marquez (Marquez is 3-0 vs Pac)
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:18 AM   #42658
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floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.
Jesus christ, nice job answering the thread.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:19 AM   #42659
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

yaay, my threadss been bumped

The point of this thread is not beating a prime ATG.

I'm just asking has there been a fighter in history at floyds level who has fought in as many weightclasses, but never had to face a prime ATG.

I'm not saying floyd neccesarily avoided anyone in particular. I'm just saying are there any other examples.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:19 AM   #42660
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I don't get into the whole, why fights didn't happen.
I agree floyd was very avoided before his delahoya fight because he was a very high risk and didnt come with the financial reward you get fighting him now.
And i agree i don't think cotto was keen back then.

But the point is, floyd beat the number one in each division. but he didn't beat the best in each division. And my point is, in all sports, especially boxing, the two can be seperate
You are basing it off of your opinion and using your opinion to discredit a fighter. Fact is he always faced the #1,2, or 3 guy each time out since he became a champ back at 130 and up.
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