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Old 10-30-2012, 10:05 AM   #5836
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

So let me get this straight, Mayweather is supposed to have a crystal ball figure out what prime fighters there are in his division, then fight them when he determined with his crystal ball if they'll be considered ATG's by some pac****s.

Great Job. If Mayweather has that crystal ball, what the **** is he doing ****ing around in boxing. He can make a lot more money predicting the lottery numbers and sports results for the next 20 years.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:05 AM   #5837
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You can't argue with this.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:07 AM   #5838
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Default Re: How come Floyd has never fought a Prime ATG?

And lol at the TS' question being butt****d by Tliang, he can't name a fight where both fighters were at the time considered ATG's in their prime. WHY? Because in your prime is not when you are declared an ATG, maybe an HOF candidate but not an ATG
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:08 AM   #5839
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Default Re: Can somebody try to refute this statement on mayweather

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Mayweather fans have refuted that Mayweather never had to fight Cotto Margarito Mosley Williams or Manny Pac at 147 ever, because he beat Baldomir back in 06 when he was number one, so he already beat the best, so he don't need to beat any of those other guys.
See you are not telling the entire story. That is the problem with your argument. When you tell the whole story it shuts you down.

Cotto himself said that Arum never offered him a fight with Mayweather. "Never!"

Mosley was offered a fight with Mayweather two times and he turned both of them down and that is a fact that can be proven. Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd the first time bc Mosley was going after Oscar which is understandable. Mosley had a ****ing tooth ache the second time he was offered yet people don't want to state that.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:08 AM   #5840
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sergio could have come down as he offered and beat cotto....technically cotto ain't the best at 154 when floyd fought him.
Would you bet your life that sergio beats Cotto???????. Technicaly what your saying is a stupid ****ing opinion. So technicaly Cotto was the best because he was rated as such.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:09 AM   #5841
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Oh yeah, forgot about Williams, too.

But I do understand the point of the Mayweather fans. He did indeed beat some top people. Number one "rated" people. But that in no way means that they were indeed the the "best" people. A person, who didn't know better, reading the quoted post in the OP would be duped into thinking Mayweather fought and beat the nearest challengers in those higher divisions. And we know that isn't the case at all.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:10 AM   #5842
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See you are not telling the entire story. That is the problem with your argument. When you tell the whole story it shuts you down.

Cotto himself said that Arum never offered him a fight with Mayweather. "Never!"

Mosley was offered a fight with Mayweather two times and he turned both of them down and that is a fact that can be proven. Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd the first time bc Mosley was going after Oscar which is understandable. Mosley had a ****ing tooth ache the second time he was offered yet people don't want to state that.
noo floyd ducked
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:13 AM   #5843
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:14 AM   #5844
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See you are not telling the entire story. That is the problem with your argument. When you tell the whole story it shuts you down.

Cotto himself said that Arum never offered him a fight with Mayweather. "Never!"

Mosley was offered a fight with Mayweather two times and he turned both of them down and that is a fact that can be proven. Mosley turned down a fight with Floyd the first time bc Mosley was going after Oscar which is understandable. Mosley had a ****ing tooth ache the second time he was offered yet people don't want to state that.
I don't get into the whole, why fights didn't happen.
I agree floyd was very avoided before his delahoya fight because he was a very high risk and didnt come with the financial reward you get fighting him now.
And i agree i don't think cotto was keen back then.

But the point is, floyd beat the number one in each division. but he didn't beat the best in each division. And my point is, in all sports, especially boxing, the two can be seperate
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:15 AM   #5845
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you love to spin ****. When one of Manny's opponents is a top p4p guy but not ranked in the division you love to point it out, but when the next guy is ranked high in the division you conveniently forget to mention it.

haters gonna hate.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:16 AM   #5846
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
And that's the thing. Those Sasakul and Ledwaba wins -- even if they were against the best in the division -- mean very little to me compared to his wins against Cotto, Bradley, Marg, etc, who weren't considered the best.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:16 AM   #5847
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
Lehdwaba was never close to being #1 in the division
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:17 AM   #5848
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compare to Pac.

112 - Sasakul
122 - Ledwaba
126 - Barrera
130 - Morales, Marquez, Barrera
140 - Hatton


That's 5 divisions.
This thread isn't about Manny?
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:17 AM   #5849
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Default Re: people say floyd cherry picks but manny is a warrior?answer me this

floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #5850
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you aint hating no more ?
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