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Old 10-30-2012, 10:28 AM   #5866
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floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.
Cotto was #1 at 154 and Floyd DOMINATED the guy Manny is now fighting for the 4th damn time....Mosley was #1 ww and avoided by Manny at the time and if he was shot then what was he when Manny FINALLY fought him? and Ortiz was the #2 at ww...when was the last time Manny faced the #2 guy?
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:28 AM   #5867
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but i refuse to listen to a pac**** like puga try to down floyd...
how come that you thought that i was talking about floyd when i haven't mentioned any names? you *****s are very defensive...

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this. boxing fans would tend to criticize boxers who protects their "0" by not taking risky fights and just handpicks opponents.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:28 AM   #5868
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I rate Hatton as a very good win for PBF as well

Hatton was unbeaten at the time and although Hatton had his limitations it was a fight that would ask lots of questions of Flloyd and he answered them all very well indeed

Floyd himself admitted it was one of his toughest fights because he had to be on his game every second of the fight, there aint much time to take a breather when you fight Hatton
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:29 AM   #5869
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who are the prime atg's he could have fought??hell name the atg's from this era

Also, check my, thread, i'm not saying he ducked fighters. Just that he's a unique caase where he's never had to face one his whole career due to how it was timed,
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:29 AM   #5870
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we're going round in circles.

The number one person in any sport, let alone boxing which is more subjective than most, isn't neccesarily the best.
They are the best at that time bc the number states it. Anything else is just an opinion? Who do you think is the best at 147 right now?
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:29 AM   #5871
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Ledwaba wasn't #1 in the division though
Not something I'm disputing, which is why I said 'if'. Replace Ledawaba with whoever was "rated" the best, and I still wouldn't bat an eye-lid.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:30 AM   #5872
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how can fans of Manny hate on Floyd and keep a straight face when he is the biggest damn cherry picker in the sport since 2010?
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #5873
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Cotto was #1 at 154 and Floyd DOMINATED the guy Manny is now fighting for the 4th damn time....Mosley was #1 ww and avoided by Manny at the time and if he was shot then what was he when Manny FINALLY fought him? and Ortiz was the #2 at ww...when was the last time Manny faced the #2 guy?
can you refute what i have said?

floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.


floyd for the last 5 years has only fought 4 times.
floyd fought two of pac's previous opponents in marquez and cotto.
floyd fought ortiz who was overhyped and has a history of quitting before and after the floyd fight.
mosley was shot by the time floyd fought him.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:32 AM   #5874
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i'm not getting into why these fights didn't happen. and i appreciate floyd was very avoided and there were tv conflicts and other issues.

The only ones i can see are Kosta at 140. Manny in 08. Maybe Mosley earlier on. Maybe Martinez now (although we don't know for sure if he'll be an ATG - I personally doubt it)

But thats it really. I agree he hasn't had many chances
Manny in 08??Floyd was retired and Manny wasnt at 147

Mosley??he had a tooth ache and thats well documented floyd been calling him out for years,PLUS he wasnt even ranked as high then

Martinez-not an atg and is a middleweight for crying out loud

and Kosta by the time floyd got to 140 was semi retired and retured and lost to Hatton so when was that fight suppose to be made?
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:34 AM   #5875
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Also, check my, thread, i'm not saying he ducked fighters. Just that he's a unique caase where he's never had to face one his whole career due to how it was timed,
all a fighter can do is face the best in each division he travels through and floyd has done that
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:34 AM   #5876
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you aint hating no more ?

how can i argue with such genius.

Because of rankings, beating number 1 ranked Baldomir makes you more of a warrior than Fighting Bradley or Clottey.

And Cotto at 154 is a more impressive win that Martinez at 154 because he was #1.

Again how can I argue with this.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:36 AM   #5877
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floyd's weakest fighter was baldomir at 147 yet he was in negotiations around that time to fight manny pacquiao?

i mean lets be real about it here.. out of all the cats at 147 at the time who was feared the most

MANNY PACQUIAO.. this little mofo sweeping through divisions knocking every guy out like he borrowed marg's wraps

if pacquiao wanted to walk away from negotiations because of testing thats his fault.

floyd went on to fight others, baldo and judah were great wins and people pick on the shane win because he was apparently passed it?, he was better at lightweight just like mayweather was better at 130..

if mayweather was scared of any fighter i doubt he would have pushed for a fight with pacquiao and then opted to fight mosley when he was coming off a vicious win and the only person to tko margarito.

remember mosley wanted that fight with mayweather.. he got in the ring and called mayweather out to his face and the fight was made

but mayweather calls him and delahoya out back when they were hitting 147 and they both dident want a bar of him (to hi risk low reward)

to say floyd is scared is pretty ****ing stupid.

his resume is great and you can pick holes in any resume and this will always happen when a fighter is active (and is a complete ****wit outside the ring like floyd is)

in 10 years he will be remembered as one of the greats MARK MY WORDS
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:37 AM   #5878
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can you refute what i have said?

floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.


floyd for the last 5 years has only fought 4 times.
floyd fought two of pac's previous opponents in marquez and cotto.
floyd fought ortiz who was overhyped and has a history of quitting before and after the floyd fight.
mosley was shot by the time floyd fought him.
i refute it easily,ill take quality over quantity, those same 4 years manny has done jack**** outside of his cotto win

floyds 4 fights were all quality against top comp and current champions.......



WHO WAS THE LAST CURRENT CHAMP MANNY FACED IN HIS DIVISION?? THATS RIGHT 2009 COTTO..IT IS 2012..SINCE 2009 FLOYD HAS FACED 3 CURRENT CHAMPION..3 CURRENT CHAMPION IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:37 AM   #5879
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Manny in 08??Floyd was retired and Manny wasnt at 147

Mosley??he had a tooth ache and thats well documented floyd been calling him out for years,PLUS he wasnt even ranked as high then

Martinez-not an atg and is a middleweight for crying out loud

and Kosta by the time floyd got to 140 was semi retired and retured and lost to Hatton so when was that fight suppose to be made?

like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:37 AM   #5880
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but you have worded it much better than me.
Especially you assesment of Cotto being number one at Light middle.
Well im on that band wagon. Cotto #1 claim at 154 is nothing but politics. Its was a gift,Arum style. Im considered a ***** but I like to think i got an good IQ. By downfall is answering to stupid pac****. But theres alot of pac**** poster I respect.
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