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Old 10-30-2012, 09:36 AM   #5566
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floyd's weakest fighter was baldomir at 147 yet he was in negotiations around that time to fight manny pacquiao?

i mean lets be real about it here.. out of all the cats at 147 at the time who was feared the most

MANNY PACQUIAO.. this little mofo sweeping through divisions knocking every guy out like he borrowed marg's wraps

if pacquiao wanted to walk away from negotiations because of testing thats his fault.

floyd went on to fight others, baldo and judah were great wins and people pick on the shane win because he was apparently passed it?, he was better at lightweight just like mayweather was better at 130..

if mayweather was scared of any fighter i doubt he would have pushed for a fight with pacquiao and then opted to fight mosley when he was coming off a vicious win and the only person to tko margarito.

remember mosley wanted that fight with mayweather.. he got in the ring and called mayweather out to his face and the fight was made

but mayweather calls him and delahoya out back when they were hitting 147 and they both dident want a bar of him (to hi risk low reward)

to say floyd is scared is pretty ****ing stupid.

his resume is great and you can pick holes in any resume and this will always happen when a fighter is active (and is a complete ****wit outside the ring like floyd is)

in 10 years he will be remembered as one of the greats MARK MY WORDS
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #5567
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Default Re: people say floyd cherry picks but manny is a warrior?answer me this

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can you refute what i have said?

floyd has 4 fights in the last 5 years, 2 of which are former fighters that pac has beat or stopped. one is an overhyped quitter and another one is a shot fighter.


floyd for the last 5 years has only fought 4 times.
floyd fought two of pac's previous opponents in marquez and cotto.
floyd fought ortiz who was overhyped and has a history of quitting before and after the floyd fight.
mosley was shot by the time floyd fought him.
i refute it easily,ill take quality over quantity, those same 4 years manny has done jackshit outside of his cotto win

floyds 4 fights were all quality against top comp and current champions.......



WHO WAS THE LAST CURRENT CHAMP MANNY FACED IN HIS DIVISION?? THATS RIGHT 2009 COTTO..IT IS 2012..SINCE 2009 FLOYD HAS FACED 3 CURRENT CHAMPION..3 CURRENT CHAMPION IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #5568
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Manny in 08??Floyd was retired and Manny wasnt at 147

Mosley??he had a tooth ache and thats well documented floyd been calling him out for years,PLUS he wasnt even ranked as high then

Martinez-not an atg and is a middleweight for crying out loud

and Kosta by the time floyd got to 140 was semi retired and retured and lost to Hatton so when was that fight suppose to be made?

like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:37 AM   #5569
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but you have worded it much better than me.
Especially you assesment of Cotto being number one at Light middle.
Well im on that band wagon. Cotto #1 claim at 154 is nothing but politics. Its was a gift,Arum style. Im considered a flomo but I like to think i got an good IQ. By downfall is answering to stupid pactard. But theres alot of pactard poster I respect.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:38 AM   #5570
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i just want one question answered

was there ever a p4p #1 superstar like pacquiao who took on fighters coming off vicious losses and put in unnecessary catchweights?

im sorry but i have high standards when it comes to being ranked p4p as there are literally thousands of world rated boxers that are competing for the prestigious title

and the above 2 things just dont cut it
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:38 AM   #5571
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floyd's weakest fighter was baldomir at 147 yet he was in negotiations around that time to fight manny pacquiao?

Wasn't Pac at 126 at that time
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:39 AM   #5572
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how can i argue with such genius.

Because of rankings, beating number 1 ranked baldomir makes you more of a warrior than fighting bradley or clottey.

And cotto at 154 is a more impressive win that martinez at 154 because he was #1.

Again how can i argue with this.
martinez hasnt been at 154 in damn near 4 years

who in the hell has clottey ever defeated??oh and he lost to baldomir


and bradley beat manny


no way can you say manny has been fighting better comp when he simply has not,he cant even dominate ****ing jmm
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #5573
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i just want one question answered

was there ever a p4p #1 superstar like pacquiao who took on fighters coming off vicious losses and put in unnecessary catchweights?

im sorry but i have high standards when it comes to being ranked p4p as there are literally thousands of world rated boxers that are competing for the prestigious title

and the above 2 things just dont cut it
No he refuses to even fight Cotto who he already beat without a catchweight,that is ridiculous
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #5574
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Mayweather fans have refuted that Mayweather never had to fight Cotto Margarito Mosley Williams or Manny Pac at 147 ever, because he beat Baldomir back in 06 when he was number one, so he already beat the best, so he don't need to beat any of those other guys.
Im not, but in all those names you mention theres only williams at one point that i was very interested on how floyd would deal with all he was bringing.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #5575
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They are the best at that time bc the number states it. Anything else is just an opinion? Who do you think is the best at 147 right now?

By Your logic Bradley is the best at 147.

By My Logic i think Manny or Floyd are the best.

By your logic. A fighter could avoid manny and floyd, fight and beat Bradley. And his fans could say. He doesn't need to fight Manny and Floyd. He fought the Best in Bradley.

Just cos your number one. It doesn't mean your the best.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #5576
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like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
Tszyu was pretty much done by the time Floyd hit 140.
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like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
but it makes 0 sense and i told you why,so in essence you answered your own question cause thats why it didnt happen...hell they either lost or ducked floyd
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:42 AM   #5578
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Tszyu was pretty much done by the time Floyd hit 140.
pretty much done??he had a fork in him he was done in 2005 and floyd just moved up in 2004 when kosta fought mitchell for a second time,then he lost to Hatton and retired so exactly when was floyd suppose to fight him,why do people even mention this??floyd had been called him out
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Im not, but in all those names you mention theres only williams at one point that i was very interested on how floyd would deal with all he was bringing.

williams and margo imo.

I'd love to see how floyd would have faired against the margo that beat cotto. That would have been a great fight.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:43 AM   #5580
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pretty much done??he had a fork in him
I agree with that.
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