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View Poll Results: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Manny Pacquiao - do you even care?
Yes. 216 81.51%
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I used to. 32 12.08%
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:40 AM   #42691
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Mayweather fans have refuted that Mayweather never had to fight Cotto Margarito Mosley Williams or Manny Pac at 147 ever, because he beat Baldomir back in 06 when he was number one, so he already beat the best, so he don't need to beat any of those other guys.
Im not, but in all those names you mention theres only williams at one point that i was very interested on how floyd would deal with all he was bringing.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #42692
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They are the best at that time bc the number states it. Anything else is just an opinion? Who do you think is the best at 147 right now?

By Your logic Bradley is the best at 147.

By My Logic i think Manny or Floyd are the best.

By your logic. A fighter could avoid manny and floyd, fight and beat Bradley. And his fans could say. He doesn't need to fight Manny and Floyd. He fought the Best in Bradley.

Just cos your number one. It doesn't mean your the best.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #42693
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like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
Tszyu was pretty much done by the time Floyd hit 140.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:41 AM   #42694
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like i said, i'm not getting into why they happened.

You asked me which could have potentially happened, and they are the ones.
but it makes 0 sense and i told you why,so in essence you answered your own question cause thats why it didnt happen...hell they either lost or ducked floyd
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:42 AM   #42695
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Tszyu was pretty much done by the time Floyd hit 140.
pretty much done??he had a fork in him he was done in 2005 and floyd just moved up in 2004 when kosta fought mitchell for a second time,then he lost to Hatton and retired so exactly when was floyd suppose to fight him,why do people even mention this??floyd had been called him out
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:42 AM   #42696
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Im not, but in all those names you mention theres only williams at one point that i was very interested on how floyd would deal with all he was bringing.

williams and margo imo.

I'd love to see how floyd would have faired against the margo that beat cotto. That would have been a great fight.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:43 AM   #42697
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pretty much done??he had a fork in him
I agree with that.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:43 AM   #42698
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I had Mayweather winning the first Castillo fight by two points and I despise Mayweather.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:45 AM   #42699
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i refute it easily,ill take quality over quantity, those same 4 years manny has done jack**** outside of his cotto win

floyds 4 fights were all quality against top comp and current champions.......



WHO WAS THE LAST CURRENT CHAMP MANNY FACED IN HIS DIVISION?? THATS RIGHT 2009 COTTO..IT IS 2012..SINCE 2009 FLOYD HAS FACED 3 CURRENT CHAMPION..3 CURRENT CHAMPION IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS
id rather watch a great fighter fight once a year and take on a tough mofo

then 2 or 3 times a year fighting cherry picked fighters

edit: but if your fav fighter is doing the latter you will always get enjoyment watching him blow some poor guy out of the water
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:46 AM   #42700
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Floyd is may favourite active fighter but i avoid discussing him like the plague. Its just not worth it.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:46 AM   #42701
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By Your logic Bradley is the best at 147.

By My Logic i think Manny or Floyd are the best.

By your logic. A fighter could avoid manny and floyd, fight and beat Bradley. And his fans could say. He doesn't need to fight Manny and Floyd. He fought the Best in Bradley.

Just cos your number one. It doesn't mean your the best.
Bradley didn't beat the number 1 guy. He beat the number 2 guy and that is a fact. Floyd beat the number 1 ranked guy in the division which was Mosley. He beat Ortiz after that. Manny fought a guy who wasn't ranked at 147 and was giving a gift. (JMM) Try again brah.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:49 AM   #42702
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Wasn't Pac at 126 at that time
yes he was sorry got a little mixed up (hard to imagine seeing as this gets talked about everyday)

but my point still is valid, manny walks away from testing and floyd walks to the next best thing
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:50 AM   #42703
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Bradley didn't beat the number 1 guy. He beat the number 2 guy and that is a fact. Floyd beat the number 1 ranked guy in the division which was Mosley. He beat Ortiz after that. Manny fought a guy who wasn't ranked at 147 and was giving a gift. (JMM) Try again brah.

but he went up to 147, gave up his belt and his ranking
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williams and margo imo.

I'd love to see how floyd would have faired against the margo that beat cotto. That would have been a great fight.
MARGO and his ****ing bricks...how long did he use them how good would he be witout them. I got big issues with margo to the point where is non existent in my fantasy matchup talks.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:52 AM   #42705
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i refute it easily,ill take quality over quantity, those same 4 years manny has done jack**** outside of his cotto win

floyds 4 fights were all quality against top comp and current champions.......



WHO WAS THE LAST CURRENT CHAMP MANNY FACED IN HIS DIVISION?? THATS RIGHT 2009 COTTO..IT IS 2012..SINCE 2009 FLOYD HAS FACED 3 CURRENT CHAMPION..3 CURRENT CHAMPION IN 2 DIFFERENT DIVISIONS
who cares about a champion when floyd fought them when that division is weak. fought ortiz as a champion when the WW was already weak. fought cotto at 154 when 154 is weak. besides floyd did not fought the real man at the weight. fought jmm and made him move up two divsions and still cheated him off the scales. mosley, both floyd and pac fought a shot version.


since 2008, floyd fought:
2008: vacation
2009: marquez @144 (floyd failed to make the catchweight)
2010: mosley @147
2011: ortiz @147
2012: cotto @ 154

since 2008, pac fought:
2008: marquez2 @ 130 lineal
2008: diaz @135
2008: delahoya @147 (pac jumping 2 divisions and underdog)
2009: hatton @140 lineal
2009: cotto @145
2010: clottey @147
2010: margarito @150
2011: mosley @147
2011: marquez3 @144
2012: bradley @147
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