Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum


View Poll Results: Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is now meaningless?
Agree 338 48.42%
Disagree 360 51.58%
Voters: 698. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-30-2012, 12:32 PM   #5161
turbotime
Future Hall Of Famer
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: LA/Canada
Posts: 18,137
vCash: 816
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

What Bill said.

Morales would have raped Pac worse at 122 than he did at 130.
turbotime is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 10-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #5162
McGrain
Diamond Dog
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 36,381
vCash: 1000
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Quote:
Originally Posted by aduriz View Post
your TOUGHNESS shows in a TRAITOR's WAY....
McGrain is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 12:50 PM   #5163
Bill Butcher
Erik`El Terrible`Morales
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Phoenix Marie`s ass, Fritzl Residence, Glasgow, Scotland.
Posts: 14,262
vCash: 1000
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Quote:
Originally Posted by PH|LLA View Post
Pac would beat every one of those top 10 Jr.FWs.

seriously.
You`re a complete joke if you seriously believe that.

Gomez & Morales would tool the shit out of him at 122... Morales was past his best at 130 when he did beat pac in 2005 & that version of pac was a better fighter than he was at 122, he was too ragged at 122 & Morales was at his peak there, Morales would punish the shit out of him at that weight, stop being a cunt, look at how many posts you have, stop acting like a know nothing troll.

Gomez would destroy pacquiao at 122, enough said there.
Bill Butcher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 12:57 PM   #5164
Bill Butcher
Erik`El Terrible`Morales
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Phoenix Marie`s ass, Fritzl Residence, Glasgow, Scotland.
Posts: 14,262
vCash: 1000
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

The Barrera that took Morales to the wire at 122 in 2000 would beat pacquiao at that weight as well IMO & I don`t even like Barrera but he would beat pac at that weight I think.
Bill Butcher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 01:48 PM   #5165
borj
the Pacific Storm
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Marikina, PI
Posts: 1,336
vCash: 1588
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Amm.. His a bandwagon fan more than a filipino.. I mean, alot of other nationalities make stupid comments and for you to post it in a forum tells us what kind of child you really are.

On a side note: i don't entirely agree with the article itself. Best super bantamweight of all time, has caballero, nishioka, and bungu.. I didn't think this division, with all of its history, sucked big time

Great picks for the top 3 btw
borj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 01:51 PM   #5166
borj
the Pacific Storm
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Marikina, PI
Posts: 1,336
vCash: 1588
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Quote:
Originally Posted by #Tremendous View Post
I have heard this from several Filipino fans, so what? A ton of African Americans I've talked to say Mike Tyson is the GOAT, and a ton of Mexicans I've talked to think JCC and Cesar Chavez are the same person and the greatest boxer to have ever lived. So what?

These are casual boxing fans, who cares what race they are. Why are you bringing it up in your title?
My thoughts exactly
borj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 01:56 PM   #5167
borj
the Pacific Storm
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Marikina, PI
Posts: 1,336
vCash: 1588
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Quote:
Originally Posted by kadyo View Post
Just checked out the list I agree with caba and izzy being in the top 10, but larios? He can be top 20 at best but that's being generous.
Yes, larios too. Israel vasquez i agree. But not caballero and larios
borj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:09 PM   #5168
SJS19
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Essex, UK
Posts: 11,238
vCash: 75
Default Re: The "Whine About Mayweather" Express!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by VivaNazVegas View Post
Mayweather has fought and beat some prime ATG's
Opens up the argument between Prime and Peak.
SJS19 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:15 PM   #5169
JohnAnthony
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 5,000
vCash: 272
Default Re: The "Whine About Mayweather" Express!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by VivaNazVegas View Post
Mayweather has fought and beat some prime ATG's

i disagree.

He's fought ATG that were past it like Mosley and DeLaHoya
And many HOF's who were prime like Castillo Coralles Hatton Cotto.

But no prime ATG's

Still a great resume.

Just missing the huge win
JohnAnthony is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:20 PM   #5170
divac
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LosAngeles
Posts: 12,336
vCash: 75
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Butcher View Post
The Barrera that took Morales to the wire at 122 in 2000 would beat pacquiao at that weight as well IMO & I don`t even like Barrera but he would beat pac at that weight I think.
I dont think so!
Pacquiao is wired to dominate fighters who rely heavily on the left hand.

Pacquiao being southpaw focuses on taking away a conventional fighters left jab and hook. If you cant throw and land the right hand with force and consistency, you become easy pickings for a physical southpaw dynamo like Pacquiao, just see the MAB, DLH, Hatton, and Cotto fights.

I said on this very board weeks before the DLH fight that if Pacquiao's weight on fightnight was within 8 lbs of DLH's, he'd destroy DLH worst than MAB!

MAB at his best would have to catch Pacquiao at his worst, and even that might not be enough!
divac is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:31 PM   #5171
igor_otsky
Undefeated
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: you is you is
Posts: 6,596
vCash: 117
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

My top 5 are:


Gomez
Morales
Barrera
Zaragoza
vazquez sr


almost on par with d ring. wtf?



In regards to Pacquiao, his brief reign in the 122 IBF belt was satisfactory and could have unified and dominated the weight class, but he opted to fight above 122 because his body is growing that he no longer wanted to drain more weight but instead move up to a comfortable weight at 126 and get some bigger fish to fry. hello marco antonio barrera.
igor_otsky is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #5172
crazy8s
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 637
vCash: 500
Default Re: Can somebody try to refute this statement on mayweather

Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyboy147 View Post
Just face it, Floyd ducked every fighter in every weight class apart from the 43 that he faced. This seems to be the theory on this forum!!

People just list fighters that he never faced and blame Floyd. even though Cotto admitted he never called out Floyd and Shane admitted he pulled out of the fight they both get named on a daily basis as guys Floyd ducked.

Pacmans record at 130 and below for me is great and his win against Cotto even at the catch weight is a great win. JMM will always have his number and vice versa no shame in that JMM really is a great fighter.

Floyd has an excellent record overall but lacks the defining fight. A win over Pac/Sergio would seal his legacy. Most of Floyd's wins come against fighters that most on esb have never heard of. They see Coralles and castillio and think they know them because they watched round 10 of their first fight, they have never heard of Hernandez etc.
Becasuse they haven't been watching boxing for very long. That's why this hindsight "wisdom" that everybody seems to possess is bullshit.
crazy8s is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:48 PM   #5173
tliang1000
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 9,927
vCash: 65348
Default Re: The "Whine About Mayweather" Express!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnAnthony View Post
i disagree.

He's fought ATG that were past it like Mosley and DeLaHoya
And many HOF's who were prime like Castillo Coralles Hatton Cotto.

But no prime ATG's

Still a great resume.

Just missing the huge win


Good F**king lord man. There is no such thing as Prime ATG! No one in history were classify as an ATG that damn early. Do you not understand what kind of non-sense you are talking about?

Below are examples of the non-sense that u are trying to say that Floyd doesn't have these types of victories.


Example1:
If they exist then I guess Mercado draw an ATG against Bhop in prime was a huge achievement then huh. Or that Jones Jr beat a Green but physical primed Bhop is a ATG victory for Jones Jr.

Bhop was not considered as an ATG that early.

New example after edit: Lennox Lewis in his prime getting beat by McCall = in prime ATG victory????

Example2:
I guess Junior Jones held two wins over Antonio Barrera means he should be a high ATG with two massive wins over a prime "ATG" Barrera in his early 20s.

Barrera was not considered an ATG that early

Example3:
Trinidad beating Oscar in their prime is not an ATG victory bc they were both NOT considered as ATGs at the time. Both of them only have wins over past prime guys like Whitaker, Camacho, and Chavez.

Example4: Singurat beating a 21 year old pac = Singurat have a ATG in prime victory???



There are many many example where a "ATG" fighter have lost in their prime due to them being Green or didn't start to get big wins until later in their career. So by u (john) saying that Floyd is missing out these matches are meaningless bc you should judge the fight at that POINT OF TIME and what were the circumstances.

Last edited by tliang1000; 10-30-2012 at 03:58 PM.
tliang1000 is online now  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:49 PM   #5174
crazy8s
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 637
vCash: 500
Default Re: Can somebody try to refute this statement on mayweather

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Rico View Post
Oh yeah, forgot about Williams, too.

But I do understand the point of the Mayweather fans. He did indeed beat some top people. Number one "rated" people. But that in no way means that they were indeed the the "best" people. A person, who didn't know better, reading the quoted post in the OP would be duped into thinking Mayweather fought and beat the nearest challengers in those higher divisions. And we know that isn't the case at all.
I can tell you wern't watching boxing at the time, if you're bringing up Williams. People who were actually watching boxing at that time remember that EVERYBODY except 2 fighters wanted to fight him from 147 to 160.

I really wish people would stop bringing up Williams when nobody wanted to fight this dude.
crazy8s is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 03:19 PM   #5175
Smokin' Joe
~ Dinamita Irlandés ~
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 6,120
vCash: 1276
Default Re: a filipino fan reacting to the omission of pacquiao from the ATG jr fw list

Was it *****_ni_numbnuts?


Nothing against Pacquiao himself, but his fans are a disgrace, generally. Really do him a disservice.
Smokin' Joe is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > General Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:07 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013