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Old 10-30-2012, 12:33 PM   #16
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What would you say is the western fighters biggest weakness against Thai's is it the clinch in particular or is it just every overall skillset except punching
Yeah, clinching is the obvious one, although I’ve got to admit in general westerners have massively improved over the last decade in that department. Fluidity of kicks and knees as well as the classic MT patience & rhythm are other weak areas. However, on the whole the standard is getting better and better outside Thailand.

Conditioning, natural fluidity of technique and ring experience will never ever be caught up by the west; they are and always will be leagues ahead. The truth is, it’s not really about the technical side, it’s deeper than that. You have to remember it’s the national sport, 65,000 boxers, 1000s of gyms with guys bought and owned by the gym first hitting the pads at maybe 6 and then training twice a day, 6 days a week, year in year out with many having 80 fights by time they are 16. It is not only their livelihood that depends on how hard they fight and train but also their siblings and very often their parents. Hence the competition is intense as life choices depend utterly on how they do in the ring. Muay Thai is their chance to earn what is considered good money and a chance at a better life, without the hope of Muay Thai they are tied to the unbreakable chain of poverty. Sounds like a cliché I know, but it’s the truth. How can you beat that in west where most of us first venture into an MT gym out of a purely recreational interest not the need or desire to feed our families?

Sure there are some westerners that buck the tread and I’m very very happy there are, but they are the rare exception. Westerners are getting better and better and more and more are basing themselves in Thailand which is only good for the sport. I’m not saying westerners can’t be as good as the Thais of course they can but unless they are going to grow up in Thailand (which ain't ever gonna happen for most) it’ll be very hard for farang to routinely win stadium belts in the important weights.

As a side note to the 2nd paragraph, the truth is for Thais that have been great boxers with successful careers in Thailand you ain’t gonna wind up rich, corrupt promoters, 50-50 splits with you gym etc etc conspire to leave you broke by time you are eventually thrown on the MT scrap heap. Why do you think the great names keep fighting on…..they don’t do it for the fun of it, it’s a livelihood in country that makes it very hard to climb the social tree. Just look at Somrak’s recent come back…….
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I was there at Sanam Luang, saw it live. A great night of boxing packed with massive ATG names not to mention that was the night Somrak had his first MT come back and made Kamel look like a novice. I'll never forget the night cos I'd been hanging a little with Coban before the fights.

JWP......always a class act. I hope OZ realise and appreciate what a warrior you guys gave the world!
Brilliant that you were there that night. You got to see a memorable card. There are some over here that truly appreciate JWP's achievements and sadly 50 times more who wouldn't even know his name.

As you probably know, JWP also boxed a while and won a couple of belts, including the Australian middleweight title.
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Brilliant that you were there that night. You got to see a memorable card. There are some over here that truly appreciate JWP's achievements and sadly 50 times more who wouldn't even know his name.

As you probably know, JWP also boxed a while and won a couple of belts, including the Australian middleweight title.
I knew he boxed, never knew he picked up any titles. Is he any kind of a celebrity in Oz outside fight circles?
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I knew he boxed, never knew he picked up any titles. Is he any kind of a celebrity in Oz outside fight circles?
I'd like to say yes he was. But outside fight circles he's not known.

For the record JWP's boxing log reads 10 wins, 3 losses and a couple of belts, including a national title >>>

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I'd like to say yes he was. But outside fight circles he's not known.

For the record JWP's boxing log reads 10 wins, 3 losses and a couple of belts, including a national title >>>

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Won every fight by KO, lost every fight by KO, 0 draws. When you look at a record like that it screams only one thing......... "Warrior!".
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Won every fight by KO, lost every fight by KO, 0 draws. When you look at a record like that it screams only one thing......... "Warrior!".
His 3 losses all went the distance. But "warrior" is still very appropriate.

Two of the guys who beat JWP at boxing, Hamdan and Bika, went on to contest world titles.
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