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Old 10-29-2012, 02:50 PM   #121
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Amazing,

Imagine what he would of thought had he been around to see Muhammad Ali, Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis and Wladimir Klitschko?


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Old 10-29-2012, 02:51 PM   #122
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Greg Page, because he had a similiar style, and probably was technically better.He had a strong shot.
leaky defense, poor man's ali
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:55 PM   #123
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In the spirit of the OP's guidelines, I'm officially throwing Roy Jones' name into the hat.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:58 PM   #124
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Demspey is overrated.[/quote/

I agree..Always have..Dempsey would gotten his ass handed to him from around 1940 all the way to present time....I dont see him beating any HW champs in the past 70 or so years.
You think more highly of Ingo Johannsen and Leon Spinks than I do
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:49 PM   #125
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Even Ali would have been able to drop or even ko Moorer.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:50 PM   #126
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Guys from the old days, who i think would have a much better chance (obviously i tip Ali) would be:
Bob Fitzsimmons - would be grossly underated by Ali, Ali would clown around and try to carry him for most of the fight to make good on one of his pre fight predictions. Ali was open to a left hand, and the Fitzsimmons shift left hand was arguably the best left hand ever. If he caught him like Cooper caught him, Ali may not have got up.

Tom Sharkey - A wild and rugged pressure fighter. A high workrate who never stops. He dealt with Corbett reasonably well, and Corbett is the closest to ali in style from his time. It is doubtful that Ali's power would KO Sharkey, and his swarming punches might force Ali into the rope a dope position and cause Ali some big difficulties.

Joe Choynski - Definitely not as good as Ali, but like Fitzsimmons and Cooper may just take advantage of the overconfidence and may have enough in his power to finish the job.
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yeah right? Looks like Langford missed about 9 of the best heavyweight champs of all time.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:40 AM   #128
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SP.glad your idol was Joe Louis,as he was also my idol in fistic ability
and modesty unlike Clay/Ali...Joe Frazier whom I saw as an Olympic fighter losing a decision to Buster Mathis,and at the FOTC,along with Alexis Arguello were also modern fighters who were my favourites along with Louis...
I am not implying thay Tommy Gibbons was as good a heavyweight as Ali was , but I could also CLAIM that "enry Cooper who almost kod Clay,and Doug Jones who lost a controversial decision to Clay/Ali, were not a prime Jack Dempsey, for sure...And I will say this one more time,,,,GENE TUNNEY never met the PRIME Jack Dempsey in 1926,so your analogy does not hold water...Tunney was a great LH and Hwt, no doubt...But the Dempsey he met in Philly was Dempsey in name only...In their second bout Dempsey
old and RUSTY caught Tunney with a tremendous flurry flooring Gene and
the Chicago referee Barry saved Tunney from a ko with the long count...
He did not start the one count til Dempsey was told to go to a neutral corner before he started the count , giving Tunney about 17 seconds to recover and rise to his feet...BUT in the 10th rd, Tunney hit Dempsey with a right hand on the cheekbone flooring Jack, and with Tunney standing near the fallen Dempsey, NEVER told Gene to go to a neutral corner, but started the count immediately...So in a way I feel that Dempsey at 32 kod Tunney
were there another referee ...And if this old rusty Dempsey without his
vaunted swiftness could drop Tunney with a 7 punch salvo, what would the prime Dempsey had done to Tunney ?
LOL,The long count,Tunney said he could have gotten up anytime and Dempsey believed him. Who did a prime Dempsey slaughter anyway? Gibbons no,Brennan no,Carpitnier had been in a war and during that war his parents were in german prison camps, Miske was known for his...? Pleassssssseeeeeeee spare the rubbish. Jack struggled to hit Tunney and hurt him because Tunney like Gibson was a smart elusive fighter times that by 10 and you have Ali.
Jack is lucky Les D'Arcy had a bullsh1t scandal and then sadly died(only the good die young!)because that boy would have stopped him.
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