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Old 10-31-2012, 06:05 PM   #5236
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

arums pockets r already filled. he doesnt need floyds help for that. sign the contract chicken shite. u got your drug tests, splits, what else do u want. now the fairy wants arum out of the picture. what a joke
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:05 PM   #5237
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didnt Oscar say the fishnet pics were fake?
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:06 PM   #5238
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arums pockets r already filled. he doesnt need floyds help for that. sign the contract chicken shite. u got your drug tests, splits, what else do u want. now the fairy wants arum out of the picture. what a joke
Manny agree to the 40 mil offer?
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:06 PM   #5239
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Oct 31, 2012, ESNEWS.

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'' The bottom line is, and this is coming from Mayweather, and i'm not speaking for nobody, is that If Bob Arum is involved with Manny Pacquiao then Mayweather does not want to fight him''.

''That's the bottom line''.

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....and Oscar should remember that Arum agreed for Pac to fight him when everybody thought Pac doesn't have a chance.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:08 PM   #5240
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The beginning of this whoel fiasco. Pardon me if I don't repeat myself EACH and every time. Look, NONE of those have been deal breakers like what Floyd has put forth. And in case you hadn't noticed, Floyd has not made any good faith negotiations here. LIke I said in another post, it's pretty much a group of posters here on ESB who still think Floyd has no blame in this. He's made the roadblacks that have put a stop to this. Get over it...I sure am.
You don't seem to see the point do you

Bob Arum makes up excuses in order to stop the fight from happening

These aren't demands, or negotiating tactics, they are made up excuses plain & simple and there isn't even any way around that
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:16 PM   #5241
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You don't seem to see the point do you

Bob Arum makes up excuses in order to stop the fight from happening

These aren't demands, or negotiating tactics, they are made up excuses plain & simple and there isn't even any way around that
You don't seem to get it. Those aren't really issues, it's just gossip shit. Maybe e you are desperate to think Pac REALLY was afraid of needles, or that somehow his supposely being afraid was what kept the fight from happenening. No, it was originally the testing porocedures. And what you probably don't get, it's not only the kinds of test, it's who over sees them. Right now, ONLY GBP and/or Mayweather (his atty as well) are whom can see the test results. Not Top rank, not the NSAC. And IF they are to fight, UNDER the testing Floyd wants, the NSAC MUST be able to see them. Right now that's never been the case. So its bigger then just that, but the big picture is just a blur to small minds. The stadium was an idea, not something set in stone. You just aren't someone who sees the big picture, someone who thinks critically on this. I can, just as I can see how Arum has made this difficult as well. But being difficult is NOT the same as putting roadblocks. How many more ATGs need to come out and question whether Floyd really wanted to face Pac? How many more articles need to come out questioning Floyd's motives, motivations, and willingness to face Pac? You ESB floyd fanboys are the ones who don't get it, and it's likely you never will. You probably don't know, but there were several articles written on how if Pac accepted the testing, Floyd would come up with something new. And he has. Again, and again.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:16 PM   #5242
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

What are you talking about gossip?!

Have I mentioned needles? I don't remember doing so.

Have I even mentioned Pacquiao?

Arum does not want to make the fight

There is no way around this

I'm not going to read your nauseating wall of text
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:17 PM   #5243
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I've said from the beginning, that Arum deserves his part of the blame for this. Do you even read posts? Besides, nothing you posted is a real deal breaker, and is just gossip shit anyway. Yeah yeah...needles....get some new material. And honestly, I have no idea why you guys think a stadium is such a bad idea. This is a fight for the fans, not the ****in high rollers who get a lot of the free and ringside tix.
Arum is at fault 100% why this fight is not happening. He made the PAC vs Cotto fight which changed everything. PAC was easy work before the Cotto fight. After that Floyd was so terrified, he saw PAC knocked Cotto down who Mosley couldn't. Because of this Floyd health became first everytime they ask Floyd if he's going to fight PAC.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:23 PM   #5244
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What's wrong with you

Did Arum not say a goddamn stadium needed to be built

A cut needed to heal

He didn't know who to ring

He wasn't answering the calls

He wanted Pac - JMM IV

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Don't try to make this out like Arum is keen for it to happen because that's pure stupidity
Schooling of the highest order. Well done, V.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:26 PM   #5245
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no one cares at this point
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:26 PM   #5246
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What are you talking about gossip?!

Have I mentioned needles? I don't remember doing so.

Have I even mentioned Pacquiao?

Arum does not want to make the fight

There is no way around this

I'm not going to read your nauseating wall of text
u r talking about the biggest ducker in the history of the sport and u r saying arum doesnt want it to happen. he waited until cotto and mosley were way past their league to face them. he even waited until oscar was shite past it to face him for the biggest grossing fight in history
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:27 PM   #5247
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The beginning of this whoel fiasco. Pardon me if I don't repeat myself EACH and every time. Look, NONE of those have been deal breakers like what Floyd has put forth. And in case you hadn't noticed, Floyd has not made any good faith negotiations here. LIke I said in another post, it's pretty much a group of posters here on ESB who still think Floyd has no blame in this. He's made the roadblacks that have put a stop to this. Get over it...I sure am.
The stadium, Pac's cut, the "Ill talk to the judge and get floyd pardoned" were ****ing deal breakers since Arum was stalling until Floyd was in jail. Which is why Floyd booked early May.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:30 PM   #5248
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u r talking about the biggest ducker in the history of the sport and u r saying arum doesnt want it to happen.
Do we seriously need to go through the list of things Arum has said about the fight

WHATEVER you think about Floyd, he's a ducker, he's a coward, etc etc, and whether you think he meant to follow through with it or not, when he called out Pacquiao to fight last May

Bob Arum could not make excuses quick enough, and all of the excuses (in addition to the ones prior) were obviously phony

If you can't see this, you are either blind, or have no brain
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:31 PM   #5249
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He hasn't been keen on making the fight STRICTLY on Floyd's terms, just as Floyd would not if Arum tried to call all the shots. But of course, this would just be another roadblock from Mayweather that for some odd reason, idiots like you cannot see. Tests? Pac agreed. Date/venue? Pac agreed. Purse parity in favor of Floyd? Pac agreed. Now Floyd expects this fight to be made w/o Pac's own promoter. How ****in gullible are you? Oh wait, maybe this is just another stipulation, right Beiber?

You can say this is a roadblock for Mayweather but truth is that Arum has stated that a Mayweather/Pac won't happen if GBP is involved. So who do we blame? I say Pac, Mayweahter and Arum all have guilt in this fight never happening. Its 3 years too late anyways and won't happen as what ODLH is saying is a good "excuse" for Mayweather to use incase of a negotiation or question about him fighting Pac. "If Arum is involed, the fight ain't happening" which is similar to what Manny says when asked about the fight on live TV after his fights; "Its up to my promoter", and similar to what Arum said before; "If GBP is involved the fight is not happening".

Move on, there is nothing to see here.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:32 PM   #5250
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