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Old 10-31-2012, 06:45 PM   #5161
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather does not want to fight Pacquiao.

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You can say this is a roadblock for Mayweather but truth is that Arum has stated that a Mayweather/Pac won't happen if GBP is involved. So who do we blame? I say Pac, Mayweahter and Arum all have guilt in this fight never happening. Its 3 years too late anyways and won't happen as what ODLH is saying is a good "excuse" for Mayweather to use incase of a negotiation or question about him fighting Pac. "If Arum is involed, the fight ain't happening" which is similar to what Manny says when asked about the fight on live TV after his fights; "Its up to my promoter", and similar to what Arum said before; "If GBP is involved the fight is not happening".

Move on, there is nothing to see here.
What exactly in the requirement for GBP again? They don't promote ANYONE in this game. Fight could have been made w/o their involvement more easily than is can w/o TR, since they actually promote on of the two guys fighting. GBP is just another mouth to feed....
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:45 PM   #5162
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those aren't deal breaks like forcing testing that isn't required, saying a fight CAN'T happen at 50-50 (which was fine before) and now saying one of the promoters cannot be involved. Don't be so niave. And Floyd booking a venue and date w/o even talking to the other side is not good-faith negotiating. If arum did the same thing, I'd expect Floyd to tell him to take a hike. And if you were as smart as you like to think you are, you'd realize that Floyd's availability wasn't always a guarntee. It was't until he postponed his entrance date that things got more clear. Do some homework Beiber...
How is testing a deal break when Pac is the ONLY fighter to ever turn down a contract with tougher drug tests?

Why would Floyd want Arum involved after all of the BS he's put pac and floyd through the last years?

At least Floyd is smart enough to leave.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:50 PM   #5163
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

Yeah, this is getting pretty bad on Floyd's part. First the money, then the testing, then the money again, and now its the promoter...just admit you don't want to risk the 0. What kind of atg fighter is this!? Funny thing is, I personally have a hard time imagining Manny beating Floyd. Seems to me like Floyd's style is all wrong for Manny. If only Floyd was as confident in his skills as I am...
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:52 PM   #5164
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

These rival Promoters are the death of this fight. do not know what is going on behind the scene but this fight is practically dead and lost its appeal big time.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:52 PM   #5165
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Yeah, this is getting pretty bad on Floyd's part. First the money, then the testing, then the money again, and now its the promoter...just admit you don't want to risk the 0. What kind of atg fighter is this!? Funny thing is, I personally have a hard time imagining Manny beating Floyd. Seems to me like Floyd's style is all wrong for Manny. If only Floyd was as confident in his skills as I am...
How was it the money first? Educate yourself first cuntmouth.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:54 PM   #5166
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Oh, and let's not forget that Team Mayweather claimed that no negotiations took place only for Ross Greenburg (then head of HBO and completely neutral party) to come out with an OFFICIAL STATEMENT and say that the fight was pretty much a done deal, and that Floyd is the only one who can answer why he walked away. On top of this, just a mere week before, Oscar told a Mexican journalist "We're close" when asked about the fight. Oscar IMMEDIATELY went on the defensive and claimed that his words were taken out of context.

"Yes, Manny Pacquiao, you're next!"

"Don't put words into my mouth, I never said Manny Pacquiao was next."


"I only say what the fans want to hear."



Why did you ignore ^^^ juicy facts?

They were close to making the fight, and Pac wouldn't accept full random testing like Mosley or Marquez would have.

They still wanted a cutoff.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:55 PM   #5167
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Oh, and let's not forget that Team Mayweather claimed that no negotiations took place only for Ross Greenburg (then head of HBO and completely neutral party) to come out with an OFFICIAL STATEMENT and say that the fight was pretty much a done deal, and that Floyd is the only one who can answer why he walked away. On top of this, just a mere week before, Oscar told a Mexican journalist "We're close" when asked about the fight. Oscar IMMEDIATELY went on the defensive and claimed that his words were taken out of context.

"Yes, Manny Pacquiao, you're next!"

"Don't put words into my mouth, I never said Manny Pacquiao was next."


"I only say what the fans want to hear."



Why did you ignore ^^^ juicy facts?



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Old 10-31-2012, 06:58 PM   #5168
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They were close to making the fight, and Pac wouldn't accept full random testing like Mosley or Marquez would have.

They still wanted a cutoff.


But Pac agreed to the blood test with a cut off date,
How about Mosley vs Mayweather,


Mayweather-Mosley fight and that the reports indicated the tests were taken 18 and 19 days before the fight.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:00 PM   #5169
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But Pac agreed to the blood test with a cut off date,
How about Mosley vs Mayweather,


Mayweather-Mosley fight and that the reports indicated the tests were taken 18 and 19 days before the fight.
That's up to the USADA and not the fighters to decide.

Having A fighter determine the last day of random testing defeats the purpose of "random".
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:01 PM   #5170
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

Neither wants to fight the other, and both are to blame.

Both have made the fight impossible at times when it looked like it could happen, both should feel the scorn from the fans (but wont) for being involved in such a disgrace as a sports 1a and 1b, in the same weightclass, in one of the biggest fights in the sports history, not fighting eachother.

Truth is they should be hounded, constantly, by fans and the media, for not getting the fight made. But boxing fans are so used to getting treated like retards they just take it and move on.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:06 PM   #5171
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather does not want to fight Pacquiao.

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How is testing a deal break when Pac is the ONLY fighter to ever turn down a contract with tougher drug tests?

Why would Floyd want Arum involved after all of the BS he's put pac and floyd through the last years?

At least Floyd is smart enough to leave.
FFS....do you really like to chase your own tail this much? For one, who gets ALL the test results? GBP? TR? Floyd? It's the NSAC who needs to over see this, and have access to them. UNTIL that is the case, testing will not be done across the board, and until it's done across the board, it's not a requirement to make the fight. Not to mention, they accused Pac of cheating FIRST, Got that? They insult him, then bring this up. I already know you don't blieve that, or think it matters, but it does to some. Besides, this ONE stipulation that you think Floyd asked for just so he can get one, is what originally stopped this, and left Floyd w/o the ONE person who can give him that fight he needs. Excpet Floyd apparently thinks differently. Why would he do all this for a fight that is the defining fight for him, and one he claims he'll win easily? Again...fight vs. Pac gives him the most money, gives him the one thing his resume lacks, a defining win, and quiets the critics. But Floyd dances around it instead. As many have already said, Floyd's antics do not make sense, nor are they consistent with someone who WANTS the fight.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:07 PM   #5172
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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They were close to making the fight, and Pac wouldn't accept full random testing like Mosley or Marquez would have.

They still wanted a cutoff.
Marquez was not tested vs. Floyd. Why not?
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:09 PM   #5173
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Marquez was not tested vs. Floyd. Why not?
Marquez said he would take random testing any time against Pac before the fight.


Pac's team STFU when he mentioned that
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:09 PM   #5174
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

These are excuses Pac, Arum, Roach and Pactards have come up with as to why Pacquiao can't fight Mayweather on May 5th or ever.

1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:10 PM   #5175
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FFS....do you really like to chase your own tail this much? For one, who gets ALL the test results? GBP? TR? Floyd? It's the NSAC who needs to over see this, and have access to them. UNTIL that is the case, testing will not be done across the board, and until it's done across the board, it's not a requirement to make the fight. Not to mention, they accused Pac of cheating FIRST, Got that? They insult him, then bring this up. I already know you don't blieve that, or think it matters, but it does to some. Besides, this ONE stipulation that you think Floyd asked for just so he can get one, is what originally stopped this, and left Floyd w/o the ONE person who can give him that fight he needs. Excpet Floyd apparently thinks differently. Why would he do all this for a fight that is the defining fight for him, and one he claims he'll win easily? Again...fight vs. Pac gives him the most money, gives him the one thing his resume lacks, a defining win, and quiets the critics. But Floyd dances around it instead. As many have already said, Floyd's antics do not make sense, nor are they consistent with someone who WANTS the fight.
Use paragraphs you spastic
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