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Old 10-31-2012, 07:06 PM   #5266
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather does not want to fight Pacquiao.

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How is testing a deal break when Pac is the ONLY fighter to ever turn down a contract with tougher drug tests?

Why would Floyd want Arum involved after all of the BS he's put pac and floyd through the last years?

At least Floyd is smart enough to leave.
FFS....do you really like to chase your own tail this much? For one, who gets ALL the test results? GBP? TR? Floyd? It's the NSAC who needs to over see this, and have access to them. UNTIL that is the case, testing will not be done across the board, and until it's done across the board, it's not a requirement to make the fight. Not to mention, they accused Pac of cheating FIRST, Got that? They insult him, then bring this up. I already know you don't blieve that, or think it matters, but it does to some. Besides, this ONE stipulation that you think Floyd asked for just so he can get one, is what originally stopped this, and left Floyd w/o the ONE person who can give him that fight he needs. Excpet Floyd apparently thinks differently. Why would he do all this for a fight that is the defining fight for him, and one he claims he'll win easily? Again...fight vs. Pac gives him the most money, gives him the one thing his resume lacks, a defining win, and quiets the critics. But Floyd dances around it instead. As many have already said, Floyd's antics do not make sense, nor are they consistent with someone who WANTS the fight.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:07 PM   #5267
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They were close to making the fight, and Pac wouldn't accept full random testing like Mosley or Marquez would have.

They still wanted a cutoff.
Marquez was not tested vs. Floyd. Why not?
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:09 PM   #5268
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Marquez was not tested vs. Floyd. Why not?
Marquez said he would take random testing any time against Pac before the fight.


Pac's team STFU when he mentioned that
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:09 PM   #5269
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

These are excuses Pac, Arum, Roach and Pactards have come up with as to why Pacquiao can't fight Mayweather on May 5th or ever.

1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:10 PM   #5270
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather does not want to fight Pacquiao.

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FFS....do you really like to chase your own tail this much? For one, who gets ALL the test results? GBP? TR? Floyd? It's the NSAC who needs to over see this, and have access to them. UNTIL that is the case, testing will not be done across the board, and until it's done across the board, it's not a requirement to make the fight. Not to mention, they accused Pac of cheating FIRST, Got that? They insult him, then bring this up. I already know you don't blieve that, or think it matters, but it does to some. Besides, this ONE stipulation that you think Floyd asked for just so he can get one, is what originally stopped this, and left Floyd w/o the ONE person who can give him that fight he needs. Excpet Floyd apparently thinks differently. Why would he do all this for a fight that is the defining fight for him, and one he claims he'll win easily? Again...fight vs. Pac gives him the most money, gives him the one thing his resume lacks, a defining win, and quiets the critics. But Floyd dances around it instead. As many have already said, Floyd's antics do not make sense, nor are they consistent with someone who WANTS the fight.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:14 PM   #5271
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Default Pacquiao and Arum's 36 Excuses

1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.

All truth. Documented.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:18 PM   #5272
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

Haven't we known this for a while now? Arum doesn't want GBP involved, Floyd doesn't want Arum involved. GBP and Arum don't do business together often. Arum is pissed he missed out on the biggest fight with Floyd/Oscar. Floyd felt he was robbed while working with Arum. Floyd tried to negotiate with Pacquiao directly and give him money directly, so he can cut Arum out of the deal. 50 Cent (apparently) tried to team up with Arum and get the fight made without GBP or Haymon, cutting them out of the deal. Neither side really wants to work with each other, and the fight will only be made as the last one for one of the fighters when they are willing to cash out...

Pac isn't fighting without Arum to look after everything, it's who he trusts with making the deals. Floyd isn't fighting without GBP/Haymon, it's who he trusts with making the deals. End of.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:18 PM   #5273
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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How was it the money first? Educate yourself first cuntmouth.
**** you you piece of shit. I dont say anything I wouldnt be perfectly willing to say to someones face. My name is Dan, I live in Maribel WI. Your mother is a slimy cunt, you ****ing cum dumpster.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:21 PM   #5274
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

The patience you guys have with this fight is unbelievable, it's not happening, it never was happening.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:22 PM   #5275
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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How was it the money first? Educate yourself first cuntmouth.
Look out kids...we have a badass over here.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:23 PM   #5276
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We get it... Floyd ducked.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:31 PM   #5277
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Are you a ****ing retard? The May bout was contingent upon Pacquiao taking a 40 million dollar flat fee.

Let's talk FACTS:

First, it was blood testing.

Then it was money.

Then it was a lack of urge.

Now it's because of a promoter.

How do you not see these things as bullshit excuses to dodge the fight? Cause you're a ****ing retard with an agenda!

Oh, and let's not forget that Team Mayweather claimed that no negotiations took place only for Ross Greenburg (then head of HBO and completely neutral party) to come out with an OFFICIAL STATEMENT and say that the fight was pretty much a done deal, and that Floyd is the only one who can answer why he walked away. On top of this, just a mere week before, Oscar told a Mexican journalist "We're close" when asked about the fight. Oscar IMMEDIATELY went on the defensive and claimed that his words were taken out of context.

"Yes, Manny Pacquiao, you're next!"

"Don't put words into my mouth, I never said Manny Pacquiao was next."


"I only say what the fans want to hear."


These three direct quotes from Floyd should give you all the evidence you need that the man doesn't want it.

You must have reading comprehension problems

Where in my post did I mention Floyd or Pacs demands negotiating? Because I don't remember mentioning Floyd, or Pacquiao, I said Arum does not want to make the fight, and listed reasons why, upon Floyd saying he wanted to fight in May, when NO mention of 40m, or any split had been made, arum did his best to make excuses as to why they couldn't fight in May

Which indicates he clearly doesn't want the fight
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:36 PM   #5278
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Marquez said he would take random testing any time against Pac before the fight.


Pac's team STFU when he mentioned that
Damn sure did. They shut up as if they had duck tape over their mouth.
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Default Re: Oscar:If Arum is involved,Mayweather will never fight Pacquiao.

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Marquez said he would take random testing any time against Pac before the fight.


Pac's team STFU when he mentioned that
They STFU on something they didn't even ask for? Wow....that makes sense. You try too hard dude. Pretty evident.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:38 PM   #5280
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These are excuses Pac, Arum, Roach and Pactards have come up with as to why Pacquiao can't fight Mayweather on May 5th or ever.

1. Pac's team want to make JMM-Pac IV fight
2. Cut needs 8 months to heal
3. Arum said Floyd going to jail so can't make fight
4. May 5th fight will be reserved for JMM-Pac IV fight
**(FMJ sentence pushed)**
5. Arum says May 5th too soon for cut to heal
6. Need time to build large stadium
7. Fight should be in Dubai or Dallas not Vegas
8. Floyd NEEDS to personally call me -Bob Arum
9. Arum is not sure why Schaffer keeps calling him, so Arum won't return call
10. Pacquiao has picked right opponent but it's a secret...shhhh...
11. Purse has to be 50/50, even though Pac said he would take the smaller purse
12. Arum said he is not pushing for fight because Floyd is really fighting Guerrero
13. Pac is running for president and fighting Floyd would not be good press because of Floyd's disrespectful ways.
14. Arum doesn't know who to call to reach Floyds business
15. Floyd must first guarentee his purse (yet Floyd and MoneyTeam have more money than all inverstors combined).
16. Pactarrds say May 5th is only for mexicans.
17. Pac says Floyd can't demand OSTD
18. Blood testing weakens Pac
19. Pac is afraid of needles
20. Floyd is too big
21. Need more time to promote fight.
22. Top Rank has investors needed for a fight of this magnitutude..joe jackson and Bobby Brown
23. Mayweather is fighting Erik Morales so pac has to fight a possible other 4 guys.
24. People won't pay to see Mayweather's style
25. "I don't even know what ees a steroid" -Manny Pacquiao -Future President of the Filipines
26. Maywaether may not get a licensed by the boxing commision, so we can't negotiate fight- Bob Arum
27. We need a bigger temporary stadium to have lower ticket/ppv prices for the fans
28. Floyd Mayweather's team are amateurs
29. Mayweather camp are negotiating through the media
30. Arum is giving him a dose of reality, thats why he's not making the fight.
31. Pac and Arum playing games with floyd to mock him.
32. Mayweather had his chance but he blew it in 2009.
33. Floyd doesn't REALLY want to fight, he's just posturing.
34. Fight would have been already over ages ago had it not been for floyd making it impossible
35. Arum: "We still don't know who to talk to on Mayweather's side"!!!
36. Manny Pacquiao has lost a step since Cotto.
These Pactards actually believed that Bobby Brown and Joe "broke ass, has to borrow money from his ex wife just to live" Jackson was going to put up the money for the mega fight.
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