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Old 11-01-2012, 07:25 AM   #5896
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It's despicable. What type of a fighter is afraid to lose or afraid to fight?

Floyd should be exiled from boxing and his name struck from all boxing records.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:43 AM   #5897
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After years of fruitless back-and-forth attacks between the camps, Koncz met with Mayweather last spring in Las Vegas in a series of meetings that seemed to gain traction. Ultimately, Koncz said Mayweather insisted on an offer no fighter of Pacquiao's stature would accept.
"He was always stuck on, 'We'll give you $40 million,'" Koncz said. "We know that the fight would generate, conservatively, between $150 million and $175 million. How foolish would we be to take a $40 million guarantee, a flat fee? It's insane."
In other words, Mayweather made an offer he knew Pacquiao could and would refuse.
Smart if you want to avoid the fight.
The man they call "Money" just doesn't want to fight Manny.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:44 AM   #5898
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Now Pac is willing to fight Floyd now that he has no belt and a shrinking fanbase
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:46 AM   #5899
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Now Pac is willing to fight Floyd now that he has no belt and a shrinking fanbase
Manny is going to end up taking that 40 million if he even gets that. I see Manny calling it a day after Dec bc Marquez is going to win a wide UD
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:55 AM   #5900
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In the 50 thousands threads asking who is more to blame for Pac/Money not happening. I have never really given well-reasoned thought or opinion on this topic. I just always stated that Arum was the reason. But it is now completely obvious that the entire Team Pacquiao never wanted a fight with "Money"...and this is based on the opponents Pac has faced instead of Mayweather. Staright BS.

If you can't get a fight with "Money"...no person in their right mind goes after Clottey who held no belt and coming off a loss. If you can't get a fight with "money" you don't go after a fighter with NO BOXING LICENSE and who held no belt (Margarito) and fight him for a vacant title. And now JMM...again!!! C'MON MAN. This is a Bullshit fight and everyone knows it!!! If not Mayweather...I still wanted to see Pac versus Guzman. Shouldv'e happened at 130lbs or 135lbs. Damn Shame...SMH!!!
It goes both ways.......If you have a fight with Pac lined up......nobody in their right mind would go out and sabotage "winning the lottery"....which is exactly what Floyd did. With his insults.....baseless accusations....creation of special drug testing requirements...nothing he did screamed "I want this fight".

From jump, Floyd's negotiation tactics have been everything one should NOT do if " serious" negotiations are taking place......Floyd turned negotiations with Pac into a circus and is the main reason this fight still has yet to happen.
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:59 AM   #5901
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Manny is going to end up taking that 40 million if he even gets that. I see Manny calling it a day after Dec bc Marquez is going to win a wide UD
The closest thing we will ever see that compares to a wide UD between theses two will be it Pac wins by a KO.....if the fight goes 12......its always going to be close.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:01 AM   #5902
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It goes both ways.......If you have a fight with Pac lined up......nobody in their right mind would go out and sabotage "winning the lottery"....which is exactly what Floyd did. With his insults.....baseless accusations....creation of special drug testing requirements...nothing he did screamed "I want this fight".

From jump, Floyd's negotiation tactics have been everything one should NOT do if " serious" negotiations are taking place......Floyd turned negotiations with Pac into a circus and is the main reason this fight still has yet to happen.
Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #5903
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The closest thing we will ever see that compares to a wide UD between theses two will be it Pac wins by a KO.....if the fight goes 12......its always going to be close.
8 rounds to 4 and I am willing to stay off 30 days if it doesn't happen.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:03 AM   #5904
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
Excellent post, well done sir. Floyd had every right to talk shit too since Arum came out of the mediation, blasted Floyd, then straight up LIED about what happened in the negotiation, the mediator even admitted it
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:06 AM   #5905
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Manny is going to end up taking that 40 million if he even gets that. I see Manny calling it a day after Dec bc Marquez is going to win a wide UD
of course flomos always wants somebody else to do his job for him. floyd let margarito and pacquiao beat cotto first before taking on him. let mosley age first andfight all the other relevant WWs at the time before taking him. let margarito get battered by everyone and now is irrelevant. now we have pacquiao. there's a reason why floyd had been taking on long vacations and made up some excuse everytime he is tasked to fight these threats.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:10 AM   #5906
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
so why did floyd and his camp tried to negotiate with the media and accused pac in the press of taking PEDs if he is realy serious in taking on pacquiao? that's not negotiating in good faith.

besides, we have all learned that the floyd testing is just an excuse from floyd. when pac agreed fully to the floyd test, floyd has some other excuses like losing his urge, wanting to take his vacations, wanting all the PPV share for himself, not focused on fighting and losing 15 pounds.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:12 AM   #5907
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of course flomos always wants somebody else to do his job for him. floyd let margarito and pacquiao beat cotto first before taking on him. let mosley age first andfight all the other relevant WWs at the time before taking him. let margarito get battered by everyone and now is irrelevant. now we have pacquiao. there's a reason why floyd had taking on long vacations and made up some excuse everytime he is tasked to fight these threats.
"Arum never, ever offered me a fight with Floyd Mayweather" Cotto

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJhvYXKZK8[/ame] Mosley himself turned down Mayweather.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:12 AM   #5908
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Still to this day i have never heard Pac directly call out Mayweather. This is a fact no source needed!! Both idiots have prevented the fight we don't need countless threads on the same topic every day.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:13 AM   #5909
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so why did floyd and his camp tried no negotiate with the media and accused pac in the press of taking PEDs if he is reaaly serious in taking on pacquiao? that's not negotiating in good faith.

besides, we have all learned that the floyd testing is just an excuse from floyd. when pac agreed fully to the floyd test, floyd has some other excuses like losing his urge, wanting to take his vacations, wanting all the PPV share for himself, not focused on fighting and losing 15 pounds.
What the **** are you asking me?

"so why did floyd and his camp tried no negotiations with the media?"

What?
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #5910
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed rto do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
Ok.....let's talk about the very beginning....the accusations from Floyd's camp started after Pac destroyed Cotto.....Pac accepted RANDOM testing from the very start but Floyd demanded blood testing ALL they way up to the fight and Pac didn't agree.

#1.....blood testing is MOST effective AFTER a fight.....randomized urine tests is the standard practice for any drug testing agency as its the most efficient way to catch those who use PEDs.

The question is why would Floyd, who talked all this shit about how "one dimensional" Pac was......how easy this fight would be......how over hyped this "midget" is.....how Pac would give him his BIGGEST pay day.....why would he need to create his own special drug tests for such an easy fight that's worth so much money....win, lose or draw?

Some people are Hung up on the blood tests.....and not the fact Pac agreed to RANDOM TESTING from the start.....how many of those caught doping are caught with blood tests?
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