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Old 11-01-2012, 08:01 AM   #5446
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It goes both ways.......If you have a fight with Pac lined up......nobody in their right mind would go out and sabotage "winning the lottery"....which is exactly what Floyd did. With his insults.....baseless accusations....creation of special drug testing requirements...nothing he did screamed "I want this fight".

From jump, Floyd's negotiation tactics have been everything one should NOT do if " serious" negotiations are taking place......Floyd turned negotiations with Pac into a circus and is the main reason this fight still has yet to happen.
Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:02 AM   #5447
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The closest thing we will ever see that compares to a wide UD between theses two will be it Pac wins by a KO.....if the fight goes 12......its always going to be close.
8 rounds to 4 and I am willing to stay off 30 days if it doesn't happen.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:03 AM   #5448
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
Excellent post, well done sir. Floyd had every right to talk shit too since Arum came out of the mediation, blasted Floyd, then straight up LIED about what happened in the negotiation, the mediator even admitted it
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:06 AM   #5449
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Manny is going to end up taking that 40 million if he even gets that. I see Manny calling it a day after Dec bc Marquez is going to win a wide UD
of course flomos always wants somebody else to do his job for him. floyd let margarito and pacquiao beat cotto first before taking on him. let mosley age first andfight all the other relevant WWs at the time before taking him. let margarito get battered by everyone and now is irrelevant. now we have pacquiao. there's a reason why floyd had been taking on long vacations and made up some excuse everytime he is tasked to fight these threats.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:10 AM   #5450
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed to do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
so why did floyd and his camp tried to negotiate with the media and accused pac in the press of taking PEDs if he is realy serious in taking on pacquiao? that's not negotiating in good faith.

besides, we have all learned that the floyd testing is just an excuse from floyd. when pac agreed fully to the floyd test, floyd has some other excuses like losing his urge, wanting to take his vacations, wanting all the PPV share for himself, not focused on fighting and losing 15 pounds.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:12 AM   #5451
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of course flomos always wants somebody else to do his job for him. floyd let margarito and pacquiao beat cotto first before taking on him. let mosley age first andfight all the other relevant WWs at the time before taking him. let margarito get battered by everyone and now is irrelevant. now we have pacquiao. there's a reason why floyd had taking on long vacations and made up some excuse everytime he is tasked to fight these threats.
"Arum never, ever offered me a fight with Floyd Mayweather" Cotto

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJhvYXKZK8[/ame] Mosley himself turned down Mayweather.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:12 AM   #5452
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Still to this day i have never heard Pac directly call out Mayweather. This is a fact no source needed!! Both idiots have prevented the fight we don't need countless threads on the same topic every day.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:13 AM   #5453
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so why did floyd and his camp tried no negotiate with the media and accused pac in the press of taking PEDs if he is reaaly serious in taking on pacquiao? that's not negotiating in good faith.

besides, we have all learned that the floyd testing is just an excuse from floyd. when pac agreed fully to the floyd test, floyd has some other excuses like losing his urge, wanting to take his vacations, wanting all the PPV share for himself, not focused on fighting and losing 15 pounds.
What the **** are you asking me?

"so why did floyd and his camp tried no negotiations with the media?"

What?
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:16 AM   #5454
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Hold up brah. Team Pac turned this shit into a circus. Put all opinions to the side and let us all look at facts.

Floyd asked for random testing from the very beginning. Manny got what he wanted and Floyd asked for the testing. Team Pacquiao actually agreed rto do the full testing from the very start and then they backed out on it and wanted cut offs. Floyd went into mediation just to save the fight and offered a 14 day cut off.

Manny himself said that he would do it but he just didn't want to to a blood test the day of the fight. When Manny was told that he had a 14 day window he said that was too close to the fight.

Now anyone in their right mind would think that was suspect and that is when Floyd started talking shit.
Ok.....let's talk about the very beginning....the accusations from Floyd's camp started after Pac destroyed Cotto.....Pac accepted RANDOM testing from the very start but Floyd demanded blood testing ALL they way up to the fight and Pac didn't agree.

#1.....blood testing is MOST effective AFTER a fight.....randomized urine tests is the standard practice for any drug testing agency as its the most efficient way to catch those who use PEDs.

The question is why would Floyd, who talked all this shit about how "one dimensional" Pac was......how easy this fight would be......how over hyped this "midget" is.....how Pac would give him his BIGGEST pay day.....why would he need to create his own special drug tests for such an easy fight that's worth so much money....win, lose or draw?

Some people are Hung up on the blood tests.....and not the fact Pac agreed to RANDOM TESTING from the start.....how many of those caught doping are caught with blood tests?
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:18 AM   #5455
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"Arum never, ever offered me a fight with Floyd Mayweather" Cotto

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As for Cotto, he is hopeful that he can get either De La Hoya or Mayweather to agree to a fight. The most money would indeed be there for a fight with De La Hoya, something not lost on Cotto.

"Yeah, I know that Oscar is still a boxer who sells homes on pay-per-view," Cotto said in ever-improving English.

But a win over Mayweather would mean a win against the man perceived by most experts to be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. And that's what Cotto really wants. He's just not sure Mayweather wants any part of him.

"If you ask Floyd for a fight with him, he always has an excuse, you know?" Cotto said. "I'm not attractive for him. I don't represent too much money for him."

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and as for mosley and margarito, he let all the relevant WWs at the time to beta each other up before taking on them the same thing he did against cotto. probably the same formula for pac once he decides to fight him.
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As for Cotto, he is hopeful that he can get either De La Hoya or Mayweather to agree to a fight. The most money would indeed be there for a fight with De La Hoya, something not lost on Cotto.

"Yeah, I know that Oscar is still a boxer who sells homes on pay-per-view," Cotto said in ever-improving English.

But a win over Mayweather would mean a win against the man perceived by most experts to be the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world. And that's what Cotto really wants. He's just not sure Mayweather wants any part of him.

"If you ask Floyd for a fight with him, he always has an excuse, you know?" Cotto said. "I'm not attractive for him. I don't represent too much money for him."

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and as for mosley and margarito, he let all the relevant WWs at the time to beta each other up before taking on them the same thing he did against cotto. probably the same formula for pac once he decides to fight him.
Mosley got beat up while Floyd retired after Hatton? By whom?
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:22 AM   #5457
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Ok.....let's talk about the very beginning....the accusations from Floyd's camp started after Pac destroyed Cotto.....Pac accepted RANDOM testing from the very start but Floyd demanded blood testing ALL they way up to the fight and Pac didn't agree.

#1.....blood testing is MOST effective AFTER a fight.....randomized urine tests is the standard practice for any drug testing agency as its the most efficient way to catch those who use PEDs.

The question is why would Floyd, who talked all this shit about how "one dimensional" Pac was......how easy this fight would be......how over hyped this "midget" is.....how Pac would give him his BIGGEST pay day.....why would he need to create his own special drug tests for such an easy fight that's worth so much money....win, lose or draw?

Some people are Hung up on the blood tests.....and not the fact Pac agreed to RANDOM TESTING from the start.....how many of those caught doping are caught with blood tests?
Floyd Mayweather Jr never said shit about Manny until Team Pacquiao started flip flopping about the testing. I don't care what Floyd Sr said after the Cotto fight. He doesn't matter.

Freddie Roach himself stated that Floyd wants OSDT and we said no problem, get him whatever he wants. The fight was a done deal and then Team Pac came back with the cut off offer. The first person to come out into the media regarding negotiations was Bob Arum who lied and said Mayweather never offered a cut off but the judge came out and said Arum lied and Arum had to admit Floyd did.

Manny Pacquiao himself said that he just didn't want to do a blood test the "day' of the fight. When he was told he had a 14 day window with no blood testing he said that was too close to the fight. What is one to think with that shit?
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8 rounds to 4 and I am willing to stay off 30 days if it doesn't happen.
Considering none of their fights have been anything close to that one sided I'll gladly hold you to that bet kid.
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Why did it take so long for Americans especially this Flomo-ridden paper to realize this??? Idiots and fanboys of the highest order

First it was the flomo-riding ESPN who realized Floyd was pussified by a midget Asian and now it's USA Today

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Good read. i"ve said all along that floyd"s a *****.
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Old 11-01-2012, 08:24 AM   #5460
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Ok.....let's talk about the very beginning....the accusations from Floyd's camp started after Pac destroyed Cotto.....Pac accepted RANDOM testing from the very start but Floyd demanded blood testing ALL they way up to the fight and Pac didn't agree.

#1.....blood testing is MOST effective AFTER a fight.....randomized urine tests is the standard practice for any drug testing agency as its the most efficient way to catch those who use PEDs.

The question is why would Floyd, who talked all this shit about how "one dimensional" Pac was......how easy this fight would be......how over hyped this "midget" is.....how Pac would give him his BIGGEST pay day.....why would he need to create his own special drug tests for such an easy fight that's worth so much money....win, lose or draw?

Some people are Hung up on the blood tests.....and not the fact Pac agreed to RANDOM TESTING from the start.....how many of those caught doping are caught with blood tests?
good points. these flomos are so hang up with the first negotiations thta they forgot that it was all started with floyd and his camps accusations. besides, pac didn't reject the floyd test fully and is willing to get tested randomly by urine without any cutoff and blood test until 24 days cut-off and immediately after the fight.

and after that saga, we all knew that these test is really not floyd's main isssue when floyd still pulls out many demands and road blocks after pac fully agreed to this floyd test. floyd now wants all the PPV share, wants to take countelss vacations, has lost urge a couple of times and now could not fight because of a BS excuse of losing 15 pounds.
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