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Old 11-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #5506
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good points. these flomos are so hang up with the first negotiations thta they forgot that it was all started with floyd and his camps accusations. besides, pac didn't reject the floyd test fully and is willing to get tested randomly by urine without any cutoff and blood test until 24 days cut-off and immediately after the fight.

and after that saga, we all knew that these test is really not floyd's main isssue when floyd still pulls out many demands and road blocks after pac fully agreed to this floyd test. floyd now wants all the PPV share, wants to take countelss vacations, has lost urge a couple of times and now could not fight because of a BS excuse of losing 15 pounds.
It's beyond "beating a dead horse" at this point. But the fact remains that if we want to find the cause of any problem...you look to the "root". And the "root" to the failed negotiations between Floyd and PAC began with Floyd, NOT PAC.

All the excuses that have hindered the fight has come from Floyd.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:47 AM   #5507
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Another indication is as soon as 50 said let's make the fight with Pacquaio, 50 was no longer Floyd's friend.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:48 AM   #5508
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It's not protocol to have ridiculous weight penalties like Pac started demanding once he moved up in weight but he did it because he didn't want to get cheated. Same with Floyd and his OST. Shouldn't have been a problem, well it was for Pac, but no other fighters sadly.
You come out with such BS its shamefull. JMM never did and OSDT, Like Isaid in a previous comment to you, it is not OSDT its RBT set over training up to the fight and after. Lets look at the fighters that have taken the TEST, Mosley OLD and after a pay day, also a guy that had been caught cheating previous. Ortiz WoW a green ass fighter with no willpower gets the chance to take on the probable best P4P fighter Uhhmm easy decision to make.. Then Cotto who is a great fighter but had some Whoopings..None of these fighters pull in what Floyd does or Pac so yes asking Pac way back in 2009 for the RBT which was turned down is NO big thing. What you allways fail to mention is that Pacquiao has for near on 2 years said he would take the TEST but FRAUD is not fighting him !! No because he will never fight him, Why? because he is scared
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:49 AM   #5509
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Margarito sucks though.
You ****ING RETARD Marg sucked back then did he?? You need to get a life pal cos your hating is damaging to many of your very few braincells
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:51 AM   #5510
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But it's not protocol.

You're basing this on what is protocol and not "What makes more sense" just because Pac is smaller. Cotto isn't a huge welter and Oscar was a walking corpse.

That's like me saying well "Pac hits harder and faster than other fighters Floyd's fought so why not drug test him?"
Of course it's not protocol....but it's not unprecedented. The scale for FLOYD was...because of the HUGE number that was tied to it.

But you realized DLH also used weight penalties to ensure bigger fighters came in at the contracted weight, right?

The tests Floyd demanded were above and beyond any weight penalty that has every been presented in any sport.

And the fact remains there are already testing measures in place that PAC always adheres to.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:52 AM   #5511
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But it's not protocol.

You're basing this on what is protocol and not "What makes more sense" just because Pac is smaller. Cotto isn't a huge welter and Oscar was a walking corpse.

That's like me saying well "Pac hits harder and faster than other fighters Floyd's fought so why not drug test him?"
Pac takes drug tests, and has never failed... these same test are catching out fighters all the time..AND I SAY AGAIN FOR NEAR ON TWO YEARS PAC HAS SAID HE WILL TAKE THE TEST... What is your answer to that ****-witt
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:52 AM   #5512
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Canelo, Khan, Garcia, Morales, Peterson, and berto have all taken the test.

Ward, Froch, zab, Devon, Sergio and maidana have requested extra testing as well.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:54 AM   #5513
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Of course it's not protocol....but it's not unprecedented. The scale for FLOYD was...because of the HUGE number that was tied to it.

But you realized DLH also used weight penalties to ensure bigger fighters came in at the contracted weight, right?

The tests Floyd demanded were above and beyond any weight penalty that has every been presented in any sport.

And the fact remains there are already testing measures in place that PAC always adheres to.
No, Leonard had told Hearns to take stricter tests, Tyson told Holyfield as well. Abraham and a lot of Sauerland fighters take random testing as well in Europe.

This was well before Floyd had turned professional.

The fact remains there are already commission penalties put in place that all sanctioned fighters adhere to, state by state, as well.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:59 AM   #5514
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No, Leonard had told Hearns to take stricter tests, Tyson told Holyfield as well. Abraham and a lot of Sauerland fighters take random testing as well in Europe.

This was well before Floyd had turned professional.

The fact remains there are already commission penalties put in place that all sanctioned fighters adhere to, state by state, as well.
Basically what Knuckle up and the rest are saying is that its okay for Manny to add additional things to the table but not Floyd.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:00 AM   #5515
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Canelo, Khan, Garcia, Morales, Peterson, and berto have all taken the test.

Ward, Froch, zab, Devon, Sergio and maidana have requested extra testing as well.

What test are you refering to because I know for sure Khan has not undertakedn OSDT nor Peterson and Berto who both got caught with the testing allready in place
Next time you BS use a source or just dont SHIT STIR you ****ing hater
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:01 AM   #5516
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Basically what Knuckle up and the rest are saying is that its okay for Manny to add additional things to the table but not Floyd.

Is taht the best you got??? Fraud wants there where and when, the split and the type of testing Hmmm to me that seems like the most of the biggest issues when trying to negotiate a fight TROLL
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:03 AM   #5517
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #5518
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What test are you refering to because I know for sure Khan has not undertakedn OSDT nor Peterson and Berto who both got caught with the testing allready in place
Next time you BS use a source or just dont SHIT STIR you ****ing hater
Take your noob ass somewhere and learn some facts before you start posting tard. Peterson and Berto both got caught with random testing you idiot. Khan gets random tested all the time in his country as well.

Damn Puga how many accounts do you have? Has to be like 20 computers in that Internet Cafe so I assume you have 20 different alts.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:04 AM   #5519
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Basically what Knuckle up and the rest are saying is that its okay for Manny to add additional things to the table but not Floyd.
Yup. It was funny when Manny kept moving the goal posts with Hatton (more PPV, gloves, etc.)

And then with oscar it was 700K for every pound...then they switched to 1 mill, then when Oscar agreed they switched to 3 mill thinking Oscar wouldn't accept

But nope, it's only OK for Pac to ask for extra stuff.
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:06 AM   #5520
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So Puga still ignores my question...

Why was Manny Pacquiao pissing his pants at the thought of a drug test with no cut off window in 2009 and now all of a sudden he is willing to take one?

Why did he need a cut off back then and now he doesn't?

Why hasn't Pacquiao made a stand and pushed drug testing in any of his last 4 fights?

Why do you make out Pacquiao agreed to the original testing request (when he blatantly didn't) to suit your agenda? One minute it's "Floyds bullshit accusations" the next minute your claiming PAC agreed to it. Make your mind up lad
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