the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

[Flea Man]

Moon was completely healthy. His trainer died the night before but you're mixing up the poisoning rumours with Japan, notably Yoko Gushiken's opponents.

[frankenfrank]

Never read anything about Gushiken except his record and maybe a few things that I 4got and still can not recall so I m not mixing with it .

Poisoning and plenty of other shit like not allowing enough time 2 get warmed (Griffin vs Jones #2 implemented against Griffin) , not allowing enough time 2 prepare strategically (Lewis vs McCall #2 , Lewis vs Tyson) , manipul8ing de scales (probably Gomez vs Zarate) , manipul8ing de referee (Benn vs McClellan) , jetlags and yet plenty of other shit so i woz jast specul8ing and most probably correct that de home advantage took its toll on Moon , not necessarily poisoning et ol end der r plenty of ader sings det i kud menshen det kud hev e critical effect on de per4mance end outkam .

[AlFrancis]

Originally Posted by LittleRed

True. But the bus was lucky didn't have to fight Zarate!

Venice losses to Hong who was knocked out by Zamora who was ruined by Zarate!

He also lost a decision to Paul Ferreri who was another knockout victim of King Carlos.

You know I was just thinking...

Chang L12 Chiquita Gonzales
Gonzales KO'd 7 Saman Sorjaturung
Saman KO'd 2 Lopez
Therefore Ricardo Lopez KO 1 Jung-Koo Chang!

Very underrated fighter Ferreri. I spoke to him last year about the Borkhorsor fight. He said he didn't have any trouble with him at all. He also had a win in the Phillipines over a young Rolando Navarette.

[Flea Man]

Did you ask him about Zarate, Al?

[AlFrancis]

He just said he was the best he fought.

[Flea Man]

That's good enough and says a lot.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Very underrated fighter Ferreri.

He looked like a capable cagey tough fighter against Zarate - clearly no pushover.

It's very hard to keep Zarate from slowly breaking you down if you don't have serious punching power.

Zarate was a great stalker.

On an unrelated note, Olivares of Herrera fight doesn't have a chance of lasting the distance with Z-Machine.

[Flea Man]

Charlie Magri Vs Fred Gonzalez

MAGRI: 2;
GONZALEZ: (+1);

Vulnerable banger Magri is down early again, this time buckled by a wide Cotto-esque left hook at the hands of journeyman Freddy Gonzalez right at the beginning of the first round, although he steadies himself. He then has his legs taken completely away from him by the same shot a few moments later. Magri weighed in a lb heavier than Gonzalez, but the Mexican looks bigger, and while basic is landing the sharper shots.

In the 2nd round Magri uses his amateur experience, he's no Willie Pep of course but he picks his shots, throwing tight one-two's to the head to distract and then lumping Gonzalez to the body hard.

In the 3rd Gonzalez show why he's not made much progress in his career, as he now looks very sloppy, dropping into southpaw and bombing wildly with looping shots from either hand. Magri weathers the storm and avoids most of it, before backing Gonzalez up with body shots, and when that doesn't do the job he fires in a short right uppercut with knocks the disheartened import off his feet for the count.

Roman Gonzalez Vs Stiven Monterrosa

GONZALEZ: 1(+1); 2(+1);
MONTEROSSA:

El Chocolatito is always nice to watch, and this is his most recent outing, where he looks pretty destructive. At the top level he doesn't appear a massive puncher above straw, but he demonstrates an Arguello-esque left hand to beat his man down. He drops him again in the 2nd and the fight is waved off in the 3rd,. The Colombian opponent was throwing back but is absolutely woeful and completely outclassed.

Since the dissection of Niida blew my mind all those years ago, I've been worried about Gonzalez's development. Most of the better guys have an easier night with the dependable Chango Vargas. Hopefully see Gonzalez in with a top notch challenge soon, Segura or Concepcion would be a nice step up. I know little about this Estrada he's down to fight next.

[Flea Man]

Luis Concepcion's last few:

Vs Odilon Zaleta

ZALETA: 1;

Boy, oh, boy El Nica has not learned anything since his shocking 1st round loss to Marquez. He has no nous whatsoever and gets caught flush wherever he is, here by Zaleta's straight punches early. But in the 2nd round Concepcion steams out and blasts Zaleta with a right uppercut that only seems to graze him but knocks him over. He gets up, clear headed and looking a bit like Christian Mijares funnily enough (hair and face, a bit) before stupidly and recklessly trying to punch it out with Concepcion to show he's not hurt. Well, he didn't look to be but he's heavily deposited on the seat of his trunks again by a big left hook in an exchange after just being clobbered by a heavy right hand. The same combination follows shortly after, and the game Mexican (then 14-1) is saved from himself as he tries to rise again.

Vs Oscar Gallardo

Hapless Mexican journeyman gets warned to fight then blown away as soon as he's in punching range.

Vs Pablo Carillo

CONCEPCION: 1; 2; 3; 4; 5; 6; 8
CARILLO: 7;

Undefeated Colombian Carrillo weighed in a little over the flyweight limit and Concepcion was a super fly and looked a good couple of weight divisions bigger on the night. Carrillo had a horribly padded record and not much of a dig but fought with guts although he was a track runner at times.

Concepcion bossed the 1st, and while the Colombian landed many, many counter hooks with each hand in the 2nd he was hurt by the straight right to the gut a few times and outworked.

If Luis' defence is bad, Carrillo was completely open for uppercuts, and got hit by so many in the early part of round 3 that it worked him into a frenzy, and he seemed to get El Nica's attention with a blitzkrieg. Still, he was hurt badly late on in the round as well, so I felt Concepcion put another round in the bank. Took the 4th and 5th too, though the Colombian upped the ante late on to try and steal the rounds and caught the Panamanian power puncher with some clean counters, with sloppy, wide punches (doesn't have much in the way of a job or know what a straight right hand is apparently)

In the 6th round Concepcion evades the Colombian's late flurries with ease, clowning him a bit. Yeah, that's how sloppy this kid is. His late flurry in the 7th snatched it from Luis as he seemed a little jarred by a couple of the shots.

Concepcion pressed the fight throughout, outlanded Carrillo (who only punched in bursts) and looked to land the more effective blows. Cannot see how it could be close and why they're rematching just because the Colombian moaned about it I don't know, he should be happy with his moral victory of lasting the 8 round distance against a dangerous puncher.

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Flea Man

Cannot see how it could be close and why they're rematching just because the Colombian moaned about it I don't know, he should be happy with his moral victory of lasting the 8 round distance against a dangerous puncher.

I was surprised to hear Carillo saying it was a controversial decision.

Concepcion clearly won the fight.
His defense was non-existent as usual but that's why we love him.

Actually I'm glad Carillo moaned about it.

El Nica marching forward, taking bombs, throwing bombs, doing somersaults.

What more can we ask for?

[Lester1583]

Originally Posted by Vic-JofreBRASIL

Just watched Villasana vs Esparragoza, good fight. Esparragoza won it IMO, 8-4.

Originally Posted by Flea Man

The only person who has agreed with me

I can understand why the fight was declared a draw.

Esparragoza didn't look impressive, especially in the later rounds and his punches had no affect on iron-chinned Villasana who marched forward the entire fight.

A.Gomez would saijo him easily.

[Flea Man]

Would be a lovely all Venezuelan tactical featherweight bout that.

[thejokerswild]

Jorge Arce - Hussy Hussien I

Gave Hussien 3 maybe 4 rounds. Not including points deducted. Arce put on a heroic like performance, he is a nutcase. Hussien only just holding in there mentally most of the fight. Cant blame him. there are few situations worse than arce in front of you and jeff Fenech in your corner.

[Flea Man]

If only Jeff could've jumped in for him

[Nightcrawler]

watching kalambay/mccallum 1 for the first time tonight. already loving it...