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Old 11-03-2012, 01:32 AM   #31
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Roy Jones by a country mile.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:23 AM   #32
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Julio Cesar Chavez.

From 1984 to 1990 he had it all and demonstrated it all. It just came too easy, too naturally to him. And he was so incredibly dominant. He did not fade until years later when weight gain, partying, shop wear and idolatry got the better of him.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:26 AM   #33
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Roy Jones by a country mile.
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:31 AM   #34
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the opening post is a paradox
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Old 11-03-2012, 02:33 AM   #35
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Raw talent?

'Nipper' Pat Daly

- Turned pro at 9
- World Ranked at 16 (top-10 Bantamweight, The Ring: September 1929)
- Year for year, he could've possessed the greatest jab of all-time; was said to be fired out of a cannon.
- 99 wins to just 11 losses


He was so talented, he did everything young. (Retired at 17.)

Can anyone really embody talent, any better?






Talent: Natural aptitude or skill.
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Old 11-03-2012, 03:21 AM   #36
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Raw talent?

'Nipper' Pat Daly

- Turned pro at 9
- World Ranked at 16 (top-10 Bantamweight, The Ring: September 1929)
- Year for year, he could've possessed the greatest jab of all-time; was said to be fired out of a cannon.
- 99 wins to just 11 losses

He was so talented, he did everything young. (Retired at 17.)

Can anyone really embody talent, any better?






Talent: Natural aptitude or skill.

Holy Shit what a beast.
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Old 11-03-2012, 07:18 AM   #37
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I always enjoy seeing Jones Junior get recognition.

We were privalliged to see him. Once in every generation? I don't think so.
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:41 AM   #38
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Prime?...best pure boxer?...I say Willie Pep...
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Old 11-03-2012, 11:48 AM   #39
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Pep had mediocre handspeed, no punch and no physical strength.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:33 PM   #40
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As far as raw talent goes Naseem Hamed and Michael Nunn deserves mentioning.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:48 PM   #41
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Raw talent does not equal technique. That takes YEARS to perfect.

Roy Jones had the most raw talent. Then Whitaker.
How can you tell what is raw talent & what is learned technique ?... only the fighters themselves would know that.... all I can do is judge a fighter on film & Pep & Whitaker were the best on pure boxing ability for me.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:53 PM   #42
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Ali, a better boxer than Jones? Absolutely not. Jones was better technically than Ali and could do more. Jones could switch stances effectively. Jones went to the body effectively. Jones wasn't so dependent on a jab, though he had a great jab when he chose to use it. If it wasn't for Ali's iron chin, he would have been knocked out more times than Jones. That's not a technical skill on Ali's part.
Ali at his best was one of the absolute best outside boxers in history, very few fighters got inside on him, his lateral movement, jab, combinations & reflexes were the best of all time p4p, why else do you think no other fighter above 200 lbs has ever came close to replicating him. I`d say Ali was a better boxer than Jones, Jones was great though, not knocking him at all.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:58 PM   #43
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Prime?...best pure boxer?...I say Willie Pep...
Me too
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:04 PM   #44
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Ali at his best was one of the absolute best outside boxers in history, very few fighters got inside on him, his lateral movement, jab, combinations & reflexes were the best of all time p4p, why else do you think no other fighter above 200 lbs has ever came close to replicating him. I`d say Ali was a better boxer than Jones, Jones was great though, not knocking him at all.
What? No, they weren't.
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Old 11-03-2012, 01:24 PM   #45
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Sugar Nikolai Valuev.
He had it all.
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