Most Natural Talent ?

Theron · 11-03-2012, 07:58 PM

Who was the fighter that had the most natural talent when starting and why do you say that person ?

Aaron Contreras · 11-03-2012, 08:20 PM

Again, Boxing's wonderboy -- Nipper Pat Daly.

anj · 11-03-2012, 08:43 PM

Naseem Hamed - his style was a complete art. It was his talented style that made him a TOP fighter when he didn't have great 'boxing' skills.

Senor Pepe' · 11-03-2012, 09:02 PM

Jack Dempsey,

You can't teach that kind of speed and power, combined with viciousness.

Bristolcity · 11-03-2012, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anj

Naseem Hamed - his style was a complete art. It was his talented style that made him a TOP fighter when he didn't have great 'boxing' skills.

Yep

mr. magoo · 11-03-2012, 09:22 PM

I think Roy Jones was naturally talented.

SP_Mauler · 11-03-2012, 10:03 PM

Roberto Duran

The Funny Man 7 · 11-04-2012, 12:02 AM

Again, I'd like to mke a dark horse shout for Ruben Olivares.

Ruben was one of the hardest punchers ever pound for pound shot for shot, he was an excellent combination puncher, he had hand and foot speed to burn, until Arguello got him his chin was rock solid, and he was extremely relaxed in the ring with a great instinctal understanding of how things work inside the ring, which simply can't be taught.

He drank, partied, and chased women all the way up to the night before the fight, neglected training, and still proved himself a true, undisputed atg.

Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Jose Napoles, and Jimmy Wilde were all extremely gift. Sometimes I think these talent discussions only focus on speed and power. There's a lot more to talent/aptitude than just those two facets. Plenty of guys are fast and strong. They aren't necessarily naturals though. The four guys were all savant-like naturals imho.

Vockerman · 11-04-2012, 01:14 AM

Willie Pep

You can't teach what he did - not even HE could teach what he did - for all his gifts he was a failure as a trainer :(

the cobra · 11-04-2012, 01:16 AM

Robinson.

SuzieQ49 · 11-04-2012, 01:18 AM

Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ezzard Charles, Roy Jones, Henry Armstrong, Ed Jofre, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Joe Louis

KidDynamite · 11-04-2012, 01:21 AM

Iron Mike Tyson

ETM · 11-04-2012, 01:50 AM

Roy Jones.

the combination of speed, power and mobility. He was a sight to see at `168.

11-03-2012, 07:58 PM	#1
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11-03-2012, 08:20 PM	#2
Aaron Contreras Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 250 vCash: 500	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Again, Boxing's wonderboy -- Nipper Pat Daly.
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anj Broner 24-2 ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Durham/Essex, England Posts: 2,066 vCash: 300	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Naseem Hamed - his style was a complete art. It was his talented style that made him a TOP fighter when he didn't have great 'boxing' skills.
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Senor Pepe' Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,734 vCash: 500	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Jack Dempsey, You can't teach that kind of speed and power, combined with viciousness.
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mr. magoo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 12,517 vCash: 1000	Re: Most Natural Talent ? I think Roy Jones was naturally talented.
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The Funny Man 7 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: here (duh!) Posts: 3,497 vCash: 1280	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Again, I'd like to mke a dark horse shout for Ruben Olivares. Ruben was one of the hardest punchers ever pound for pound shot for shot, he was an excellent combination puncher, he had hand and foot speed to burn, until Arguello got him his chin was rock solid, and he was extremely relaxed in the ring with a great instinctal understanding of how things work inside the ring, which simply can't be taught. He drank, partied, and chased women all the way up to the night before the fight, neglected training, and still proved himself a true, undisputed atg. Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Jose Napoles, and Jimmy Wilde were all extremely gift. Sometimes I think these talent discussions only focus on speed and power. There's a lot more to talent/aptitude than just those two facets. Plenty of guys are fast and strong. They aren't necessarily naturals though. The four guys were all savant-like naturals imho.
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Vockerman LightJunior SuperFlyweigt ESB Full Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 386 vCash: 1000	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Willie Pep You can't teach what he did - not even HE could teach what he did - for all his gifts he was a failure as a trainer :(
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SuzieQ49 Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 12,964 vCash: 1000	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ezzard Charles, Roy Jones, Henry Armstrong, Ed Jofre, Sugar Ray Robinson, Willie Pep, Joe Louis
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ETM Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,041 vCash: 500	Re: Most Natural Talent ? Roy Jones. the combination of speed, power and mobility. He was a sight to see at `168.
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