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Old 11-05-2012, 06:36 AM   #1
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Who was the best ever to utilize the art of blocking and parrying?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:07 AM   #2
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Let's start with Jack Johnson, one of the greatest defensive specialist of all time. Look at pictures of his face after most fights and you'll understand why he's considered so highly. He blocked most jabs coming at him, leaving him unmarked.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:14 AM   #3
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Joe Louis was very good at this
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Old 03-11-2013, 03:50 PM   #4
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By eight weight classes

Hw- Jack Johnson
Lhw- Harold Johnson or Archie Moore
Mw- winky Wright
Ww- Marlon starling
Lw- probably gans or McFarland. Of the guys I've seen Chavez maybe.
Fw- azumah Nelson but i'm sure there's since old timer like Dundee who is just as good
Bw- Jofre or konadu, maybe
Flw- Ricardo Lopez

Edit- do.Philly shell guys count? Cause then Mayweather and Benton might make it.

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Old 03-11-2013, 05:44 PM   #5
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By eight weight classes

Hw- Jack Johnson
Lhw- Harold Johnson or Archie Moore
Mw- winky Wright
Ww- Marlon starling
Lw- probably gans or McFarland. Of the guys I've seen Chavez maybe.
Fw- azumah Nelson but i'm sure there's since old timer like Dundee who is just as good
Bw- Jofre or konadu, maybe
Flw- Ricardo Lopez

Edit- do.Philly shell guys count? Cause then Mayweather and Benton might make it.
Marlon Starling there makes me think of the Honeyghan fight. I think he blocked almost everything Honeyghan threw at him.
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:49 PM   #6
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langford was apparently quite good but the footage we have doesn't tell us enough.

whitaker did it masterfully at 135
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Old 03-11-2013, 05:55 PM   #7
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Blocking-Winky Wright
Parrying-Jack Johnson
these are just the first two examples that come to mind..
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:03 PM   #8
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Roy Jones in his prime was SO good at this. He's smack away punches with his left hand and counter with swift rights regularly. Beautiful to watch. His rematch with Montell Griffin is a parry-to-trigger punch masterclass.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:04 PM   #9
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Bernard Hopkins is fantastic at it. I'm not just mentioning it due to his schooling of Cloud 2 days ago, either.

Getting all of that leverage into a right hook after blocking Trinidad's left hook with his right hand to knock him out took a lot of skill.

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:16 PM   #10
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Beautiful knockdown that.reminded me of Kalambay's last round knockdown of Herol Graham.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:55 PM   #11
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I tend to think of George Foreman as being one of the most overrated fighters on this forum. But he deserves his due- he was a pretty darn good parry artist! He slaps punches away a lot like Jack Johnson at times.
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Old 03-11-2013, 09:55 PM   #12
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Does cross arm block count, Archie Moore is excellent with this.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:00 PM   #13
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Seems like (yet again) diffferent people have different meanings to the same words. Boxing's never had a very precise vocabulary (think of the ever-repeating right cross, overhand, counter right arguments).

I'd not have throught Marlon Starling was good at blocking in the sense that i know punch blocking, but was excellant as covering up with a high and tight double smother gaurd. And Clottey, and even some peek-a-book practitioners etc.

But then I think of punch blocking as when e.g. a left jab is thrown and you block it or even knock it down down with your open glove (palm side) and then counter with a jab or quick right hand off thrown off your shoulder. Or if the opponent drops his right hand as he left jabs, a quick left hook counter to that opening etc etc. The punch block is the beginning of the counter.

Instead I see peopel here writing about blocking in terms of blocking ounches through covering up, or having a shell-type defence. Its not what I understanding blocking to mean. By way of example, in the early century the best punch and blocking masters like Jack Johnson would block jabs with their right hands and coutnter in the same motion with same hand, whether uppercut of cross. Eddie Booker was renowned for blocking (I assume straight rights?) and punching with rapid left hook counters in the same one-motion style. I've described it elsewhere. There are many accomplished paracticioners over the years...a good book I have is 'Blocking and Hitting by McFadden. I've been looking to track down Jim Wilde's book Hitting and Stopping from the same era also but haven't had much luck.

Still, when blokes pick off a left hook with their forearm thats a block (in my mind thats a forearm block), so there's no monopoly on boxing definitions. Still, I just wonder whether which type of blocking the TS was asking about given he also asks about parrying.

On the other hand, parry's are parry's, in or out, although I recently picked up a 'new' boxing book in a bookstore and was suprised to see that they're not being taught the way I was, which is in a downwards slightly circular motion. Now they're jsut taught to go in the direction you want, so a parry of a left jab with your right glove to the outside is by just moving your hand to the right inside their jabbing wrist. I was taught to snake over the jabbing forearm and wrist and flick it out to the right, I still think thjis makes for a more effective parry as its less a deflection and more of a..well, more of parry. Still, I'm not bothered to try out the pro's and con's of the new parrying techniques, but if its like anything eklse in boxing, its likely a lesser skill aimed at the lowest common denominator.
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:18 PM   #14
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Joe Louis was very good at this
No doubt
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Old 03-11-2013, 10:19 PM   #15
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Jack Johnson was the first to come to mind, definitely.
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