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Old 11-05-2012, 07:05 PM   #31
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Solid win over ****ino Cuevas.
Oh, very solid.

See, mentally, that fight was simply a matter of hard vs soft. Some of us on here - and I won't name names (Janitor) - are always complaining about the hard ones; saying that they're just so frustrating and even painful to endure, but I think it's time for all of us to admit that, when talking about these kind of assholes, and when it really leaks right down to the bottom of it, we all appreciate the hard a little more than the soft. For me, soft just doesn't feel right, and I'm sure that's the way it is for all of you! It goes to easily! No resistance! Dammit, man! Hard at least puts up a fight! Hard makes it a struggle! That's what being hard's all about!


This is why I knew, when I first heard that the fight was being made, that things were going to get pretty messy for ole' ****ino.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:09 PM   #32
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A very messy win over Pooigi Minchello though. And Joseph Npooga was a decent contender that rarely gets mentioned as a good turd tier win for Duran.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:09 PM   #33
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duran isn't top 10 p4p. he lost to all the great fighters he faced. hearns beat the best collection of champions across the different weights. leonard was green against duran, he fought his fight, in 89 he beat him easy so that's all that matters.

Judah can stick and move, Duran never beat anyone who can move. Judah > Duran.
Dude you are not serious are you?

Duran's wins:
Koyabashi - a seriously great lightweight.
Ken Buchanan - a worthy hall of famer
Ernesto Marcel - a top lightweight who went on to beat Alexis Arguello
Esteban De Jesus
Guts Ishimatsu - DOMINANT lightweight
Saoul Mamby - a Cerevantes type fighter who lost many but also had a streak with lightweight championship wins, including win over Esteban De Jesus and others
Carlos Palomino - hall of famer
Sugar Ray Leonard once but dominated after
Slight loss to Benitez, loss to a random Kirkland Laing afterwards.
Beat GREAT fighter Davey Moore
Narrow loss to Hagler at middleweight, yes MIDDLEWEIGHT.
A COMPLETELY shot fighter a year after Hagler
Still beats Iran Barkley afterwards!
- Don't forget that he was ballooning in weight constantly throughout his career which has a bad effect on your body over time.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:09 PM   #34
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Compromise between the side.

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Old 11-05-2012, 07:21 PM   #35
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All these foreign, **** related names are hurting my brain. I'm going back to the general where things make sense.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:00 PM   #36
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Duran was not on steroids.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:00 PM   #37
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Dude you are not serious are you?

Duran's wins:
Koyabashi - a seriously great lightweight.
Ken Buchanan - a worthy hall of famer
Ernesto Marcel - a top lightweight who went on to beat Alexis Arguello
Esteban De Jesus
Guts Ishimatsu - DOMINANT lightweight
Saoul Mamby - a Cerevantes type fighter who lost many but also had a streak with lightweight championship wins, including win over Esteban De Jesus and others
Carlos Palomino - hall of famer
Sugar Ray Leonard once but dominated after
Slight loss to Benitez, loss to a random Kirkland Laing afterwards.
Beat GREAT fighter Davey Moore
Narrow loss to Hagler at middleweight, yes MIDDLEWEIGHT.
A COMPLETELY shot fighter a year after Hagler
Still beats Iran Barkley afterwards!
- Don't forget that he was ballooning in weight constantly throughout his career which has a bad effect on your body over time.
A few things, luf was joking.

Mamby was 'Cervantes like' in what way?!?! And he was a LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT champ' not lightweight.

Guts wasn't dominant. WTF?! How could he be? He didn't beat Duran for one!

Marcel was a great featherweight.

Davey Moore wasn't great in any way shale or form, precocious pro' and good offensive talent though.

Get your facts straight. Only seen a few posts from you, very enthusiastic but often incorrect Duran related posts. Luf was on a wind-up but don't go completely the other way.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:19 PM   #38
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A few things, luf was joking.

Mamby was 'Cervantes like' in what way?!?! And he was a LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT champ' not lightweight.

Guts wasn't dominant. WTF?! How could he be? He didn't beat Duran for one!

Marcel was a great featherweight.

Davey Moore wasn't great in any way shale or form, precocious pro' and good offensive talent though.

Get your facts straight. Only seen a few posts from you, very enthusiastic but often incorrect Duran related posts. Luf was on a wind-up but don't go completely the other way.


I don't mean to be a ****, but that had me literally laughing out loud. Capitalized too..

Guts Ishimatsu - DOMINANT Lightweight

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Old 11-05-2012, 09:16 PM   #39
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Dude you are not serious are you?

Duran's wins:
Koyabashi - a seriously great lightweight.
Ken Buchanan - a worthy hall of famer
Ernesto Marcel - a top lightweight who went on to beat Alexis Arguello
Esteban De Jesus
Guts Ishimatsu - DOMINANT lightweight
Saoul Mamby - a Cerevantes type fighter who lost many but also had a streak with lightweight championship wins, including win over Esteban De Jesus and others
Carlos Palomino - hall of famer
Sugar Ray Leonard once but dominated after
Slight loss to Benitez, loss to a random Kirkland Laing afterwards.
Beat GREAT fighter Davey Moore
Narrow loss to Hagler at middleweight, yes MIDDLEWEIGHT.
A COMPLETELY shot fighter a year after Hagler
Still beats Iran Barkley afterwards!
- Don't forget that he was ballooning in weight constantly throughout his career which has a bad effect on your body over time.
You sinners & unbelievers crucified our lord & saviour jesus christ & now you crucify duran

Your first mistake, you can claim ignorence, but to make the same mistake twice is the sign of a ****ing idiot
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Duran = GOAT ... Suck on it haters
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:44 PM   #41
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Duran was not on steroids.
MAG's the one to come out and say it so bluntly.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:44 PM   #42
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A few things, luf was joking.

Mamby was 'Cervantes like' in what way?!?! And he was a LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT champ' not lightweight.

Guts wasn't dominant. WTF?! How could he be? He didn't beat Duran for one!

Marcel was a great featherweight.

Davey Moore wasn't great in any way shale or form, precocious pro' and good offensive talent though.

Get your facts straight. Only seen a few posts from you, very enthusiastic but often incorrect Duran related posts. Luf was on a wind-up but don't go completely the other way.
Dude, for Mamby, the lightweight issue is not relevant because I'm talking about Duran's career as a whole. He's like Cervantes in that he's lost quite a few fights, but has performed well in others i.e in championship fights. Obv Cervantes is an ATG.

Guts was quite a dominant force you must admit. He beat Ken Buchanan, hard hitting Rodolfo Gonzalez etc.

Beating Marcel was a great achievement, he was only 5lbs lighter in his previous fight, and he did start fighting at the same weight he fought Duran. This is still a very good win for Duran.

Davey Moore was solid. He didn't need to have many fights to prove that. In fact, it further attests to his greatness to have only needed a few fights under his name to be able to beat Ayub Kalule and Wilfred Benitez (granted, Benitez was on decline, but still a solid fighter at the time).

Just make sure you don't forget his other great feats when replying to me poking non-existent holes in my comment. i.e Koyabashi, Buchanan, De Jesus, Palomino, Duran vs Leonard 1 and Duran vs Hagler being a close decision when Duran had no business being at middleweight.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:06 PM   #43
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MAG's the one to come out and say it so bluntly.
I saw the title of the thread and responded. There has been a lot of comments since that point away from that topic I can see now. Duran is not a guy who would take steroids. His confidence and pride would not be something which would let him do steroids. As much as some people think I am biased for Ray and not for Duran, Duran was one of the most proud and confident guys whoever fought. And people can tell that and love him for it.
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duran isn't top 10 p4p. he lost to all the great fighters he faced. hearns beat the best collection of champions across the different weights. leonard was green against duran, he fought his fight, in 89 he beat him easy so that's all that matters.

Judah can stick and move, Duran never beat anyone who can move. Judah > Duran.
I know who you're referring to,lol. PS the "Floored" thread is just short of 1500 posts. Congratulations are in order

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:56 AM   #45
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I saw the title of the thread and responded. There has been a lot of comments since that point away from that topic I can see now. Duran is not a guy who would take steroids. His confidence and pride would not be something which would let him do steroids. As much as some people think I am biased for Ray and not for Duran, Duran was one of the most proud and confident guys whoever fought. And people can tell that and love him for it.
Agreed, MAG.

I'm just saying that it's a wee bit ironic that you would be the one to so flatly deny disparaging claims against Duran. You're kind of known for the opposite thing there. You know? Yeah, you know.


Also, people don't think you're biased for Ray. They think you're biased for Tommy and biased against Duran. It's cool though. It is who you is, MAG.
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