Boxing  

Forum Home Boxing Forum European British Classic Aussie MMA Training
Go Back   Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum


Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 11-05-2012, 08:30 PM   #16
janwalshs
Journeyman
ESB Jr Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 198
vCash: 500
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

I think Leonard would always handle Benitez at any time and at any weight. Ray was just a tad stronger, quicker and a harder puncher.

I do wonder though how many gamblers threw themselves out the window after this championship fight. How many people bet, maybe large amounts of money, that Wilfred would last the distance? Then to have it stopped with just a few seconds left in the fight and Wilfred still hanging on, albeit dazed.

Anyone think the fight should have gone the distance?
janwalshs is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 11-05-2012, 08:33 PM   #17
lora
Fighting Zapata
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,556
vCash: 500
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Of course it should have.It was a pathetic stoppage.
lora is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 08:41 PM   #18
lora
Fighting Zapata
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,556
vCash: 500
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

btw i don't think Leonard was much quicker of hand than Benitez really.It was more Wilfred's inconsistent and lower workrate\ less focused punchpicking than being too slow that truly cost him imo.

You could see at the end of the fight as he just smiles and congratulates Leonard, he couldn't have given a toss about losing, whereas Leonard was busy and intense.Winning was everything to him.
lora is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2012, 10:08 PM   #19
MAG1965
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dallas,Texas.
Posts: 17,399
vCash: 1010
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Good question. Probably because Benitez moved up and fought Maurice Hope soon after. That fight was so grueling, I suppose he wanted to move up. And to be honest, at 154 he had one of his best complete fighter reigns as champion.
MAG1965 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #20
red cobra
Undisputed Champion
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: The Sea of Tranquility
Posts: 13,246
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MAG1965 View Post
Good question. Probably because Benitez moved up and fought Maurice Hope soon after. That fight was so grueling, I suppose he wanted to move up. And to be honest, at 154 he had one of his best complete fighter reigns as champion.
No surprise, I think that was Benitez's best weight. He cold****ed Hope and whipped Duran, as well as going 15 with Hearns. I think a rematch at 154 with Leonard would have been a better showing for Wilfred, though I think SRL would have edged it.
red cobra is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 05:38 AM   #21
Bill Butcher
Erik`El Terrible`Morales
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Phoenix Marie`s ass, Fritzl Residence, Glasgow, Scotland.
Posts: 14,262
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Leonard beat Benitez very decisively & beats him any time they fight IMO.

A rematch would have still been good to see though, 2 master boxers.
Bill Butcher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 05:40 AM   #22
Bill Butcher
Erik`El Terrible`Morales
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Phoenix Marie`s ass, Fritzl Residence, Glasgow, Scotland.
Posts: 14,262
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flea Man View Post
I felt Ray won it very convincingly.
Same here, I can`t see how anyone with eyes sees this as close tbh.
Bill Butcher is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 06:20 AM   #23
MAG1965
P4P King
East Side VIP
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dallas,Texas.
Posts: 17,399
vCash: 1010
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by red cobra View Post
No surprise, I think that was Benitez's best weight. He cold****ed Hope and whipped Duran, as well as going 15 with Hearns. I think a rematch at 154 with Leonard would have been a better showing for Wilfred, though I think SRL would have edged it.
he fought so well in his title reign at 154. one of his best reigns. Had Hearns not beaten him I think he might have kept winning for a year or two, but Hearns disrupted his momentum.
MAG1965 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 10:08 AM   #24
Bokaj
Champion
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,232
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lora View Post
btw i don't think Leonard was much quicker of hand than Benitez really.It was more Wilfred's inconsistent and lower workrate\ less focused punchpicking than being too slow that truly cost him imo.

You could see at the end of the fight as he just smiles and congratulates Leonard, he couldn't have given a toss about losing, whereas Leonard was busy and intense.Winning was everything to him.
Couldn't disagree more with this. Benitez put in a champion's effort, pulling himself together numerous times after being hurt, shipping quite a bit of punishment, especially to the body, and still went for a strong late rally.

He only went down in the last round because he was exhausted and his legs were gone.
Bokaj is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2012, 10:27 AM   #25
Senor Pepe'
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,704
vCash: 500
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Round 15

Entering Round 15, Wilfred was behind on points, and his brother Gregorio told him
that he needed a knockdown in the round to get a Draw, and a knockout for a win.

Wilfred could have boxed, and easily made it through the round, but he went out
like a 'warrior' trying for a knockout win.

6-seconds were left in Round 15, after he was floored and took the mandatory
8-count. Wilfred could have easily made it to the bell.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It was a bout with equally talented boxers, but Ray Leonard was the stronger man
in the ring that night, and was the harder puncher.

Ray took the first 3-Rounds, and had a 2-point edge in Round 3 by scoring a 'flash-
knockdown'. That gave Ray a 30-26 point (4-point) lead after 3-Rounds.

From Rounds 4 thru 13 (10 Rounds), Wilfred had the edge 4-2-4 in Rounds.

Last edited by Senor Pepe'; 11-06-2012 at 10:47 AM.
Senor Pepe' is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 06:18 PM   #26
jowcol
Contender
ESB Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,147
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Too much boxing politics to comment on why no rematch but why is everyone saying this was a Ray cake-walk by the late rounds? Benitez never trained properly and his dad flew back to Puerto Rico a week before the fight saying his son didn't give a damn if he won or lost. Wilfred lost, not so much because of Ray's talents, but because he simply didn't have have the moxie or the attitude to prevail. He had every bit as talent as Ray.
Just another example of so little being done with so much (Gregory-Benitez, other underachievers over the decades) who could have have gone down in history as ATG's.
jowcol is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 07:07 PM   #27
KuRuPT
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,866
vCash: 500
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

All I can say is the stoppage was just horrible.
KuRuPT is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 07:26 PM   #28
Titan1
Belt holder
ESB Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,931
vCash: 1000
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

I'm thinking, that maybe, just maybe, Ray was a bit wary of Wilfred.He probably knew that Benitez was potentially capable of giving him a tougher fight, so he was wary of him.Plus, Wilfred dating Ray's sister would come into play at some point.
Titan1 is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2012, 09:41 PM   #29
Hands of Iron
#MSE
East Side Guru
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 7,356
vCash: 75
Default Re: Why no Benitez-Leonard rematch?

Quote:
Originally Posted by KuRuPT View Post
All I can say is the stoppage was just horrible.
True, but he didn't need it to win.
Hands of Iron is offline  Top
Reply With Quote
Reply

Boxing News 24 Forum > Boxing > Classic Boxing Forum

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Boxing News 24 Forum 2013