Referee - Tony Perez 'I Should Have DQ'd Muhammad Ali'

[Senor Pepe']

Thoughts by Tony Perez, on why he wasn't allowed to penalize or DQ
Muhammad Ali.

Teddy Brenner and Madison Square Garden,


A) Wanted Muhammad Ali to defeat Joe Frazier on January 28, 1974

B) They were hoping (praying) that Ken Norton would defeat George Foreman in
their March 1974 Heavyweight Championhsip Bout.

C) Madison Square Garden was planning on having Muhammad Ali fight the 'new'
Champion Ken Norton in October 1974, and in Madison Square Garden.

Hence, Muhammad Ali 'must win'.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by senor pepe'

does anyone have the exact total of behind the neck 'cuffs' mr. Ali used on
mr. Frazier.

Fouling is one thing, but to take advantage by using a 'filthy' low-style move,
knowing full well that the ringside officials (new york state athletic commission)
would allow you to get away with it, because they were bidding for another 'big dollar'
fight.

Primary source?

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Thoughts by Tony Perez, on why he wasn't allowed to penalize or DQ
Muhammad Ali.

Teddy Brenner and Madison Square Garden,


A) Wanted Muhammad Ali to defeat Joe Frazier on January 28, 1974

B) They were hoping (praying) that Ken Norton would defeat George Foreman in
their March 1974 Heavyweight Championhsip Bout.

C) Madison Square Garden was planning on having Muhammad Ali fight the 'new'
Champion Ken Norton in October 1974, and in Madison Square Garden.

Hence, Muhammad Ali 'must win'.

Unless you produce a primary source to prove this ,we must assume you are not only lying, but that you have libelled a man who was renowned for his integrity ie Teddy Brenner.

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[Stevie G]

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Thoughts by Tony Perez, on why he wasn't allowed to penalize or DQ
Muhammad Ali.

Teddy Brenner and Madison Square Garden,


A) Wanted Muhammad Ali to defeat Joe Frazier on January 28, 1974

B) They were hoping (praying) that Ken Norton would defeat George Foreman in
their March 1974 Heavyweight Championhsip Bout.

C) Madison Square Garden was planning on having Muhammad Ali fight the 'new'
Champion Ken Norton in October 1974, and in Madison Square Garden.

Hence, Muhammad Ali 'must win'.

Definitely an aroma of bullshit about this,Pepe

[Lord Tywin]

More horsehockey from our lying friend.

[Senor Pepe']

Round 7,

Absoluetly a 'filthy display' of sportsmanship from a 'dirty boxer'.

Muhammad Ali grabbed the back of Joe Frazier's neck no less than
'13-times', and held on for total of '1:25' of a 3-minute round.

And '7' of those times, he purposely pushed down of Mr. Fraziers head,
committing an 'intentional dirty foul'.

Muhammad Ali was an 'unclean' boxer.

[Bummy Davis]

Perez was a great 3rd man, but Ali/Dundee s had a lot of influence

[Senor Pepe']

Originally Posted by Bummy Davis

Perez was a great 3rd man, but Ali/Dundee s had a lot of influence

Tony Perez was a very good third man in the ring, but in January 1974
he was young man at 43.

He was 'intimidated by the atmosphere that night'.

Tony could have easily warned Mr. Ali '4-times' for cuffing, and
deducted a 2-point penalty in Round 7, and still had enough
left over to warn Mr. Ali '7' more times.

What do you call a boxer who intentionally fouls like that,,,,,,,,,,,

[Andrei00]

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

What do you call a boxer who intentionally fouls like that,,,,,,,,,,,

The Greatest!

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Andrei00

The Greatest!

And the WINNER.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Senor Pepe'

Tony Perez was a very good third man in the ring, but in January 1974
he was young man at 43.

He was 'intimidated by the atmosphere that night'.

Tony could have easily warned Mr. Ali '4-times' for cuffing, and
deducted a 2-point penalty in Round 7, and still had enough
left over to warn Mr. Ali '7' more times.

What do you call a boxer who intentionally fouls like that,,,,,,,,,,,

Intimidated???
The two judges had it 7-4 & 8 -4.Perez had it 6-5.

[Senor Pepe']

Ringside Observer,

Fernando Ortiz,

"It was a disgrace. Tony should have deducted 6 or 7 points from that
'dirty man'. A good Referee would have done that. No question, I would
have Disqualified him. There is no need for that type of fouling in professional
boxing.'

'I looked at him, and said 'you are filthy'. You're so dirty you need to take a
shower.'

Hey Muhammad !!

[Woller]

British referee Harry Gibbs was once in line as a possible referee in a M. Ali world title fight. He was asked from the commision what he would do if Ali grabbed behind the head. Gibbs said: "The same as I would do to any preliminary fighter. Two warnings and then out he goes". Did Gibbs ever referee a Muhammed Alif fight??
But on the other hand - Tony Perez did some very poor jobs.

Woller

[Senor Pepe']

Originally Posted by Woller

British referee Harry Gibbs was once in line as a possible referee in a M. Ali world title fight. He was asked from the commision what he would do if Ali grabbed behind the head. Gibbs said: "The same as I would do to any preliminary fighter. Two warnings and then out he goes". Did Gibbs ever referee a Muhammed Alif fight??
But on the other hand - Tony Perez did some very poor jobs.

Woller

M. Woller,

Tremendous post.........

Mr. Harry Gibbs would have thrown him out, most definitely.

[mcvey]

Originally Posted by Woller

British referee Harry Gibbs was once in line as a possible referee in a M. Ali world title fight. He was asked from the commision what he would do if Ali grabbed behind the head. Gibbs said: "The same as I would do to any preliminary fighter. Two warnings and then out he goes". Did Gibbs ever referee a Muhammed Alif fight??
But on the other hand - Tony Perez did some very poor jobs.

Woller

No, but he refereed Muhammad Ali against Brian London in 1966