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Old 10-15-2012, 08:14 PM   #16
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It won't come down to who has the better chin in a fight like this. McCall had power but was often unwilling to use it. Chuvalo wasn't the hardest hitter but he was always trying to throw punches.

That's exactly what it might come down to, Chuvalo simply had the better work ethic. A KO is very unlikely.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:06 PM   #17
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Chuvalo was lazy in a lot of fights, allowing opponents to outwork and outpunch him. And since he's the one who's getting hurt here, he'll be even more timid and conservative than usual.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:40 PM   #18
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It won't come down to who has the better chin in a fight like this. McCall had power but was often unwilling to use it. Chuvalo wasn't the hardest hitter but he was always trying to throw punches.

That's exactly what it might come down to, Chuvalo simply had the better work ethic. A KO is very unlikely.
These are basically my thoughts as well.
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Old 10-16-2012, 02:34 AM   #19
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Mccall was a waster who knows how he would turn up he also had a fragile mind so might quit mid fight

As for stunning him mccall said it was bert cooper who stunned him and he also said bert cooper hit harder than tyson

There was 4 guys training together in the very early 1990's cooper, morrison, mccall and mercer, bet there was some nice sparring sesions there
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:09 AM   #20
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Chuvalo was lazy in a lot of fights, allowing opponents to outwork and outpunch him. And since he's the one who's getting hurt here, he'll be even more timid and conservative than usual.
I have never seen Chuvalo pull off what McCall did against Bruno, which was to do absolutely nothing. That was a true display of going into a shell after taking a big punch. Chuvalo always gave a honest effort from what I've seen.

Even if this was a bout fought between two well washed up fighters, you could hardly ever imagine McCall throwing this kind of caution in the air:

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He wasn't afraid to take a punch or two to get the job done:

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Old 10-16-2012, 06:29 AM   #21
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It helped Ollie a great deal in that Lewis rematch that LL was being extremely conservative in his approach. If he had planted himself and let the bombs fly, he would have been the first to deck McCall.
I agree with this somewhat. Bruno absolutely put McCall in his shell after buzzing him in the first too
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Old 11-10-2012, 04:59 PM   #22
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Chuvalo had what I would call the greatest "cotton reel jaw" of all time. Meaning his head would snap and swing all over the place but he took the shots. McCall had/has a "cast iron jaw", meaning, he took heavy shots and his head hardly budged.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:07 PM   #23
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It annoys me when you read two of toughest boxers of all time being described as "timid and conservative" and "weak and fragile minded". Like Andre Ward said, the most talk you get is from people who've never boxed.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:11 PM   #24
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Chuvalo had one of the best chins in the history of boxing and carried it through nearly 100 fights. Can't think of anyone's that rates better, particularly when you take into account the guys he fought.
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Old 11-10-2012, 05:58 PM   #25
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George Chuvalo wins by UD
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:41 PM   #26
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I wouldn't really call McCall going in a shell against Bruno ***** or whatever.

Bruno could bang, and bang really hard.
He had his shortcomings, but power certainly wasn't one of those
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:42 PM   #27
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I double posted...
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:44 PM   #28
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Bonavena floored Chuvalo , and if i m not mistaken he was not even d only 1 .

Chuvalo , Cleroux , 4man , and if i m not mistaken at least another 1 had him "on his bike" .

4man would have KOd him if d ref did not mercifully saved him .

Chuvalo's chin's so over8ed .

McCall was technically KDd by Bruno and was KDd by Akinwande (flash KD and it was ruled as a slip)

D Lewis whom fought McCall was usually destroying ppl in 1-3 rds , 6 with Morison , if i m not mistaken , and that was because Morison was smart .

D rematch with Lewis means nothing as McCall was in no condition 2 fight .

Prime McCall would have won a decision over a retreating Chuvalo , similar like he did over Jesse Fergusson , only in a yet more convincing fashion .

May have even floored floor Chuvalo on his way 2 winning .

Chuvalo was twice outpointed by Cleveland Williams , "FFS" .
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Old 11-10-2012, 06:49 PM   #29
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Frank has a unique prose style.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:03 AM   #30
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Frank has a unique prose style.
I hate it. The uglyness meeting the lazyness, that's what his style is about.
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